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    14 handicapper here. My question is around finding the slot. I find that when I take one handed swings with my right arm the club drops right into the slot bisecting my right bicep on the downswing. As soon as I put 2 hands on the club and swing the shaft no longer will bisect my bicep in the downswing and I now swing over my shoulder on the downswing (ott) or steep. Why is this and how can I shallow it out so it drops in the slot like 1 handed swings?
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    Try rotating your right hip back more in the backswing. Almost feel as though your right hip pocket goes behind you (it won't but that's the feel). This will allow you a deeper turn and more room to swing down more shallow and on the inside.

    A good drill is to take a dining room chair and put it against your right hip to make sure you don't sway. Done correctly your right hip should actually come off the chair in the backswing as you rotate your right hip back behind you. If you bump into the chair you've swayed.

    Again, the whole idea is to get you more room to swing more shallow. Make sure you start the swing with your arms and not your shoulders so they can find the slot easier. A swing thought of keeping your back to the target longer isn't a bad thing also.

    Give it a try. Get that right butt cheek going behind you and to the left. Your ball striking should improve as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keefer View Post
    Try rotating your right hip back more in the backswing. Almost feel as though your right hip pocket goes behind you (it won't but that's the feel). This will allow you a deeper turn and more room to swing down more shallow and on the inside.

    A good drill is to take a dining room chair and put it against your right hip to make sure you don't sway. Done correctly your right hip should actually come off the chair in the backswing as you rotate your right hip back behind you. If you bump into the chair you've swayed.

    Again, the whole idea is to get you more room to swing more shallow. Make sure you start the swing with your arms and not your shoulders so they can find the slot easier. A swing thought of keeping your back to the target longer isn't a bad thing also.

    Give it a try. Get that right butt cheek going behind you and to the left. Your ball striking should improve as well.

    Red Sox fan as well. Transplanted Cape Codder now living in Florida.
    Thanks I'll give it a try. Wish I were in Florida!
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    Oh my! Just tried it out. Put it on video and broke it down with the golf app I have on iPad. Made a huge difference. I found I had no hip turn in the
    backswing resulting in just an upper body movement. When I did what you told me to do the shaft shallows out and drops right back on the
    plane line on the downswing. Why this happens I don't know but I like the feeling.
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    Moreira85.... Maybe the the one arm swing encourages you to lead with the right elbow more effectively. IMHO, a leading right elbow is key to getting the downswing more shallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moreira85 View Post
    Oh my! Just tried it out. Put it on video and broke it down with the golf app I have on iPad. Made a huge difference. I found I had no hip turn in the
    backswing resulting in just an upper body movement. When I did what you told me to do the shaft shallows out and drops right back on the
    plane line on the downswing. Why this happens I don't know but I like the feeling.
    That'll be $25.00. Just kidding, glad it worked for you. Good Luck...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by moreira85 View Post
    14 handicapper here. My question is around finding the slot. I find that when I take one handed swings with my right arm the club drops right into the slot bisecting my right bicep on the downswing. As soon as I put 2 hands on the club and swing the shaft no longer will bisect my bicep in the downswing and I now swing over my shoulder on the downswing (ott) or steep. Why is this and how can I shallow it out so it drops in the slot like 1 handed swings?
    It's the way you do the BS with the R arm only drill. Observe how you do it, and then do that too in your real swing. It's how the R arm, side and shoulder pull that sets you up for a correct DS.

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    I think the term "over the top" is misunderstood in many cases. There are golfers who swing out over the plane and swing out to in (steep). There are others who swing too inside to too inside (shallow) and can get the same results in ball flight as swinging OTT out to in. Either a pull or a slice.

    However, what both swings need is to somehow get the path more in to out. The question is how do you do that?

    For some golfers they may need more room to swing more from the inside to out. The right hip going behind you should get you more room to swing down from the inside and more to the outside or at least more square down the target line.

    Some need to get the right shoulder more down at the beginning of the downswing. For many golfers this is very un-natural and a tough thing to change.

    These golfers need to somehow get the feeling of moving the right shoulder down and under first and then out and forward. Again, it's a very un-natural move. Somehow they need to get the right shoulder moving like a submarine baseball pitcher does.

    Again, learning to swing in to out for many golfers is a very tough thing to achieve as evidenced by the amount of golfers who slice the ball. And when they learn to square the face it turns into a pull.

    Path is the hardest thing to fix IMO.
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    The golf swing has three parts:

    1. The move to the right on the backswing.
    2. The move to the left.
    3. The move AWAY from the left.

    You have to complete #2 by the time of the left arm parallel on the downswing.

    That will make the club and your arms transistion WAY differently.

    Additionally,

    YOU CAN'T LAY THE CLUB DOWN if your hands don't go out some in transistion.

    As far as over-the-top goes, everyone who does it, does it for a darn better reason than they just CAN'T stop it.
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    "All you have is the HUB PATH and the force and torque you apply to the club—that's the whole swing."

    Brian Manzella is Golf Digest's 37th ranked teacher in the USA and is a three time Golf Magazine Top 100 Instructor.

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    Hi Mr. Manzella,

    What's your take on doing the BS by mainly rotating the L hand clockwise and getting it across the chest. For me R upper arm pressed in the side of the chest gets the R forearm elevating automatically. I also turn my L shoulder quite down under the chin, which for me elevates the clubhead too. So L arm or hand not too low on top (not below the R shoulder).

    What are the pros and cons of the above in your experience?

    My objective right now is to find a consistent BS that allows me to just fire the hips in transition. The R forearm or R wrist bending back takeaway is just not for me, I think...not sure...

    I'm a bogey player.

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