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    Haha. Some folks just don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Dugan View Post
    The double-pendulum model is "joke"? It was the standard in scientific golf research for 30 years and is still very valid today. And just because your fancy machines can measure torques on the grip or wherever does NOT mean that the force powering those torques emanate from the wrists. Put PingMan in your lab. We know there is no torque applied directly to its' "hands", yet I'm sure you could measure a bunch, right?

    You have no idea about Ping Man and what they have to do to it so it doesn't hit a 100 yard slice, do you?
    "All you have is the HUB PATH and the force and torque you apply to the club—that's the whole swing."

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    Nothing "wrong" with a double-p....it can show you WHERE is a good time TO PUT torque on the club and what might happen if you don't.

    Sorry bud, but the forefront is now RIGHT HERE...get used to it.
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    "All you have is the HUB PATH and the force and torque you apply to the club—that's the whole swing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Manzella View Post
    You have no idea about Ping Man and what they have to do to it so it doesn't hit a 100 yard slice, do you?
    There is no need for power applied directly to the hinge connecting club and arm in swing robots, yet they "release" the club. Since the same physical laws apply to robots and humans alike, the golfer need not apply a torque actively with his wrists to cause the clubhead to rotate around his hands. You said this is wrong. Are you saying that the golfer should be or is always actively bending the wrists to release the club as opposed to allowing the bending of the wrists to be a passive movement, triggered by active movements of other body parts?
    Last edited by Todd Dugan; 08-01-2015 at 01:02 PM.
    Swing the clubhead in a circular arc, in-plane, striking the ball with the center of the clubface, with the clubhead traveling in the direction required, with the clubface pointing in the direction required, at the velocity required, for the desired ball flight.

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    So, you really don't know how PING MAN works...correct?
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    "All you have is the HUB PATH and the force and torque you apply to the club—that's the whole swing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Dugan View Post
    There is no need for power applied directly to the hinge connecting club and arm in swing robots, yet they "release" the club. Since the same physical laws apply to robots and humans alike, the golfer need not apply a torque actively with his wrists to cause the clubhead to rotate around his hands. You said this is wrong. Are you saying that the golfer should be or is always actively bending the wrists to release the club as opposed to allowing the bending of the wrists to be a passive movement, triggered by active movements of other body parts?
    That's the idea that ruined golf instruction for decades. Sorry bud, but you're way out of touch.
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    There is a coupled motion torque at the hands applied by ALL GOOD PLAYERS. Period.
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    "All you have is the HUB PATH and the force and torque you apply to the club—that's the whole swing."

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    I am looking forward to seeing the measurements and seeing how they apply to getting the club to the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wulsy View Post
    That's the idea that ruined golf instruction for decades. Sorry bud, but you're way out of touch.
    Its not an idea. Its a fact. Simple science proven by MANY scientists. Do you actually read/study any of the research that has been done on the golf swing?

    BTW, U still a Stage 5 Flipper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Manzella View Post
    So, you really don't know how PING MAN works...correct?
    Clearly not as well as you do. But I do know that there a swing robots which have a hinge connecting arm to club which is free. No torque is applied to that hinge to create the release of the clubhead around it except at the upper arm. Could you please confirm or deny this? Finally?
    Swing the clubhead in a circular arc, in-plane, striking the ball with the center of the clubface, with the clubhead traveling in the direction required, with the clubface pointing in the direction required, at the velocity required, for the desired ball flight.

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