The grey area...

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mgranato

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...the area between a proper full shot and a proper pitch shot. The area that makes scoring seem easy.

My grey area is between 120 yards to 40 yards. This area used to be a warm comfortable place to be. A place free of tension and anxiety. A place were good things usually happened. Now, it's more like my golfing purgatory.

When you're more comfortable hitting the green from 200 yards hitting over a tree than you are from the 80 yard marker, things are screwy. I think this part of my game has been slowly devolving over the past couple years as more time was spent improving other areas. The neglect is now glaring. Problem is, I've not been able to find the old move. Believe me I've been looking.

The good news is the majority of my approach shots come from this area. The bad news is the majority of my approach shots come from this area. I fully plan to get this sorted, necessity is a hellavu motivator. I'm not really sure what I'm asking with all this. Sometimes venting just feels (sorry Steve :)) good.

Maybe some of you have been through this yourself, but it doesn't seem to be a big area of conversation for some reason, so maybe not. This also seems to be one of those swing deals that seems to be more personal than mechanical. It also seems to be a grey area for LMs with respect to club data inside the 100 yard range. This grey area is making my grey matter hurt.

I'm Mike and I have a problem.
 
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For what it's worth....

mgranato said:
I believe the new forum rules ask that we don't post sad desperate 2D pleas in public :)
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Kevin's instruction had more impact here then any other part of my game-- 40-90 was a complete disaster for me. Now when I get it together, the pitch he taught me from 40-90 has made all the difference-- I played the short par 3 course at Champion's gate (a blast BTW) this winter 1 over par thanks to these instructions. I also used to like about 180 better then 80. I'll bet Kevin's instruction on the short shot would make a great video.


(BTW: I'd be interested in hearing what your miss is. When I was missing, it was fat, thin, shanks, and *ginormous* hooks even with a wedge. I could aim at the right edge and take it over the left side with a 54. So Kevin didn't have much to work with. ;) )
 
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whisper said:
Kevin's instruction had more impact here then any other part of my game-- 40-90 was a complete disaster for me. Now when I get it together, the pitch he taught me from 40-90 has made all the difference-- I played the short par 3 course at Champion's gate (a blast BTW) this winter 1 over par thanks to these instructions. I also used to like about 180 better then 80. I'll bet Kevin's instruction on the short shot would make a great video.
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Short game video would be awesome from Kevin or Brian. I've been waiting on Brian's short game video for a couple years now:)
 
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Don't think of it as grey area. Think of it as the creativity zone. There are so many different options, I like to hit the shot I'm feeling that minute, 60 yards could be a lob wedge or a punched 7 iron, or anything in between... Depends on the lie and the shot I'm feeling most confident about executing at that time.
 
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whisper said:
Kevin's instruction had more impact here then any other part of my game-- 40-90 was a complete disaster for me. Now when I get it together, the pitch he taught me from 40-90 has made all the difference-- I played the short par 3 course at Champion's gate (a blast BTW) this winter 1 over par thanks to these instructions. I also used to like about 180 better then 80. I'll bet Kevin's instruction on the short shot would make a great video.


(BTW: I'd be interested in hearing what your miss is. When I was missing, it was fat, thin, shanks, and *ginormous* hooks even with a wedge. I could aim at the right edge and take it over the left side with a 54. So Kevin didn't have much to work with. ;) )
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Not surprising to hear regarding Kevin.

The miss depends on what side of the bed I wake up on. Lately it's been on the left side, but I'm an equal opportunity misser. Thankfully, no hosel rockets though. It's more of a distance and direction thing, that's all. :rolleyes:
 
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magicmarker said:
Don't think of it as grey area. Think of it as the creativity zone. There are so many different options, I like to hit the shot I'm feeling that minute, 60 yards could be a lob wedge or a punched 7 iron, or anything in between... Depends on the lie and the shot I'm feeling most confident about executing at that time.
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Completely agree about the creativity, but I'd like to quit having to be creative for a plain-Jane-straight-forward-run-of-the-mill-little wedge shot. It quits being creative when you have to do it all the time.:)
 
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++++ LN

When you have (enough) bounce and you know how to use it, it makes these shots look easy. If anyone out there wonders why it looks so easy, it's because once you have enough bounce and you know how to use it, these shots are really easy.
 
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mgranato said:
Not surprising to hear regarding Kevin.

The miss depends on what side of the bed I wake up on. Lately it's been on the left side, but I'm an equal opportunity misser. Thankfully, no hosel rockets though. It's more of a distance and direction thing, that's all. :rolleyes:
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Granto - I know you're a natural fader and also a baller, so you taking some of that shallow medicine to the extreme and changing that path way inside out? pulls and blocks with the shorties?
 
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Lindsey Newman said:
More arm swing, less downloading, get the shaft more vertical at impact (face on view)- bounce wit me, bounce wit me
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I've kinda blindly stumbled across the "less downloading" thing a week ago. Definitely an area that needs some attention. Easier to accomplish with more or less wrist hinge going back? Or does it matter?
 
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Mike,
I always had a problem with 5 feet or so putts. Because I felt I SHOULD make them, I tried to guide the bugger like hell and it totally ruined the actual stroke.

Maybe this is where the problem lies: you feel you SHOULD be going flag-hunting from these distances, you over-think it and it wrecks your usual smooth-as-silk-on-silk move.

How did I overcome it? In a very facile fashion. I just said to myself I can make, or I can miss - Simple. Don't over-intellectualise this.

Next time you are 120 out, say that to yourself. You'll probably hit the clubhouse roof first of all, but it's amazing how quick you regain confidence when you sweep the decks of all that "I must, I should" thought process
There was a post in a thread a few days ago about how a human being fares so much more poorly when he/she think about what they have to lose, rather than what they have to gain. Sounds like it could be worth a shot for you.
 
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Okay.... so you're saying playing "close-ups" on every hole is probably not the best game to be in for this condition? :)

The outcome is obviously the problem, but I honestly don't fear it. I boldly hit bad shots all the time. It's more of the perception of what I'm doing being way different than the reality of the shot I'm seeing. That's really under my skin right now.

Your point is very well taken, and something that takes effort to stay on top of.
 
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