Absence of jump on downswing...

[OLIVER1]

I asked this question on a different thread, and I was wondering if the following made any sense to anybody?

Arms, coupling point, tumble torques and release work well deep into downswing and thus place the potential radius of the clubhead into the ground ---Absence of jump at impact----To counter this, left elbow has to kind of buckle outwards towards to target ---instant drag of left arm and total undermining of flow towards complete line up---instant underplaning----resultant ugly shots.

I'm asking if the tug/pull can also occur just before impact and ruin prior optimal moves?
Does the above form a rational, logical causal chain or am I talking jibberish?
Thanks for taking a look..
Regards

 

[ZAP]

Makes sense to me. Of course even though I dont speak jibberish.....I can read it pretty well.

 

[jbrunk]

I asked this question on a different thread, and I was wondering if the following made any sense to anybody?

Arms, coupling point, tumble torques and release work well deep into downswing and thus place the potential radius of the clubhead into the ground ---Absence of jump at impact----To counter this, left elbow has to kind of buckle outwards towards to target ---instant drag of left arm and total undermining of flow towards complete line up---instant underplaning----resultant ugly shots.

I'm asking if the tug/pull can also occur just before impact and ruin prior optimal moves?
Does the above form a rational, logical causal chain or am I talking jibberish?
Thanks for taking a look..
Regards

I want to hear this answer as well. This describes what I am doing. I am hitting the ball better with the out toss, but my right foot is still coming up and out too early which tells me there is some late tugging going on.

 

[ekennedy]

If you have an early overshift to your left side, its pretty hard to jump and adds a ton of tug.

 

[Brian Manzella]

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This is Errie Ball.

He can't jump.

He makes PERFECT contact, and as of 98 years old (when the video was shot) he could still play.

If you CAN'T JUMP, you have to put the hula-hoop less in the ground, or use your left arm.

 

[spmurph]

Brian has a good drill in his new Front 9 app video for practicing the jump. Also, some other very good material relating the concepts in "Ideas about the Release" to the 2011 major winners.

 

[Dariusz J.]

Do you all mean literally "jump" or just a desired amount of extension * of the lead side of the body ? Lack of "literal jump" does not mean lack of sufficient amount of extension as in case of this 98-years old golfer.
BTW, big bravo to this man ! I am sure he plays below his age quite for some time now.

Cheers

* for a biped with a correct body CoM shift

 

[ParHunter]

Brian has a good drill in his new Front 9 app video for practicing the jump. Also, some other very good material relating the concepts in "Ideas about the Release" to the 2011 major winners.

Just had a look at the front 9 video and it is basically a summary of the 'Ideas' video (I would still recommend watching the release video as the front 9 video is only a 'teaser').

On the front 9 app it showed straight after that under 'more from Manzella'
his 'Never hit it fat' again video. Is that video still relevant for the new release? It looks a bit like handle dragging to me.

 

[OLIVER1]

I used to play off +2 R&A and hit it 290 with persimmon woods, and now all my power has drained away. I've searched high and low for it and this thread has proved where it has all gone. When I'm at the range, I feel like i"m hitting it well using the new release and it's going about 260. Then I feel that jump (an arbitrary description, granted Dariusz) move out of nowhere and the ball hits the net at the far end, some 290 yards away. But I can't consciously duplicate it without ruining all the other good stuff
How very humbling that a 98 year old chap is better through impact than somebody 65 years his junior.
He'll probably run off with my wife when he hits triple digits

 

[natep]

I But I can't consciously duplicate it without ruining all the other good stuff

I feel your pain. Burying the hulahoop in the ground and then yanking it up and out is very inconsistent for me. Or at least consciously swinging with that intent is inconsistent for me.

 

[Dariusz J.]

But I can't consciously duplicate it without ruining all the other good stuff

That's why introducing conscious thoughts sucks.
Anyhow, I believe that you, as a +scratch golfer, did not need extra length before and your swing had enough extension without going for a "ReMax jump" level. It's qui pro quo, I am afraid. Either accuracy or length. The best equilibrium is Hogan, Snead, up to Nicklaus. Over this, the realm of jumpers that spreads ewerywhere begins.

Cheers

 

[spmurph]

I feel your pain. Burying the hulahoop in the ground and then yanking it up and out is very inconsistent for me. Or at least consciously swinging with that intent is inconsistent for me.

I instantly gain distance but lose accuracy. Probably needs more practice.

 

[natep]

I instantly gain distance but lose accuracy. Probably needs more practice.

I just decided not to "bury" the hula-hoop any deeper than I can easily pull out. I dont need distance, and this move was causing erratic contact for me. My left knee started hurting too from snapping it straight trying to jump hard enough to not hit it fat. Like I said, for me trying to consciously do this led to me basically overdoing it with negative results. Everyone will be different in their application, even though we may have the same intents.