Across The Line Advocation

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birdie_man

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Anyone at all teaching this much these days beside our host? (some of the time as we know)

I can't think of anyone ever but surely there are some. ( I don't have so many golf books)

Maybe it was "in vogue" when people had no (or less) video.
 
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ej20

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How much you get the club "across the line" depends on how short or long your backswing is.

A shortish backwing should not be "across the line" but "laid off" but it's not necessarily laid off.
 
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ej20

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I guess the long held belief is that when the shaft is parallel to the ground it should also be parallel with the target line.I don't think you can go too far wrong with this concept.

If you go beyond parallel then it's probably better to be across the line.Less forearm rotation provided the left wrist is flattish.
 
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welshdentist

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How long before people realise just how unbelieveable strong and talented Hogan was?

That swing was HIS perfect pattern.

Everyone's is different and Tiger found close to his around 2000. He said he had shots he couldn't hit before....seriously, he is using modern equipment and ball so he can't DO too much with it.

The world no1 should be able to hit a driver. It's too much coincidence Haney ended up with driver yips

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rogerdodger

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Prior to soft draw, I remember reading a book by Gardner Dickinson where he said all good drivers swings are across the line. I have an old book of swing sequences of golfers from the 50's. Claude Harmon was the only one on line with his swing. Jack Burke Jr., Lawson Little, Snead, Craig Wood, were all across the line at the top. I play with my 12 year old daughter. When she crosses the line at the top, she kills it. Why wouldn't you swing that way? Unless you are long and wild.?
 
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softconsult

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I have swing analysis software, C-Swing. I haven't used it for my swing because of all the time it takes to set up camera etc. However, it does come with a library of tour player swings, multiple swings and clubs per player.
You can can play the swings in I think 8 different speeds, freeze frames and draw lines etc. Watching these swings is a great way to get the feel of how the pros swing, particularly the rhythm and speed of the swing.

There are about 20 different players. There are several that cross the line and go past parallel with the Driver. These would include David Toms, Kirk Triplett, Roger Tambellini, and Rich Beem.
 
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rogerdodger

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golfers illustrated by a sportswriter named Oscar. I am at my office, book is at home. Great book, each golfer hits a certain club, Claude Harmon hit a four iron, Burke hit a three iron... Jimmy Thomson, then the longest hitter in golf really crossed the line. All these guys had a great pivot, crossed the line, lifted the left heel, many looked like soft draw. No one stayed on the left side while pivoting. Also, the book showed closeups of the grips, lot of stronger left hands. I bought from a used book store for a hundred dollars, my wife nearly divorced me over it but it was worth every penny.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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TBH, i'm not a big across the line guy because these days most people who come see me swing too far right as it is so getting them even more across the line doesn't help them in most cases. However, for people who are very laid off or too flat i do try to get their elbow to fly a bit or get them in a position to where they are more down the line which to them might feel like across the line.

My argument is this, how many people in the PGA Hall of Fame had overly flat backswings? I started this thread a while ago and there weren't too many people in the flat camp

http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/golfing-discussions/8830-honest-question-need-some-help.html
 
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ej20

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I agree Jim,all this talk about laid off and across the line....there has been nothing on the merits of just being good ol fashion on line or is being online a serious fault?
 
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