Aiming WAY right

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I've been hooking the driver lately and the ball pretty much starts a little straight or left and then curves more to the left. I figured this was a clubface problem (10 Things DVD). Just got back from 18 and I hit some bomb drives but also some hooks. A buddy laid a club down and I was damn near aiming 30 yards to the right. If my feet are that much right, does that impact my clubface or path? Or both? Thanks
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Here is what i find with mis-aimers...yes my word lol.

You have conflicting issues..what your conscious mind thinks and what your sub-conscious mind knows

Take you for instance:

Your conscious mind thinks it is aiming correctly and you are planning on hitting a small draw to your target with a slight inside/out path and a slightly closed face to that path to draw it there. However your sub-conscious mind knows you are aimed 30 yards right but doesn't tell the conscious mind that BUT what it does is pretty much force you and your body to do SOMETHING to get the ball to go towards the target which is much further left that you THINK it is and as a result you hook the crap out of it! Now could be path or face doing it but the ROOT CAUSE is the aiming.

I have helped de-hook a few players by simply just working on aim with them. I helped them aim better and like "magic" the ball flight was much more controlled and it was going more where they wanted it to go but it took them some getting used you too.
 
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Here is what i find with mis-aimers...yes my word lol.

You have conflicting issues..what your conscious mind thinks and what your sub-conscious mind knows

Take you for instance:

Your conscious mind thinks it is aiming correctly and you are planning on hitting a small draw to your target with a slight inside/out path and a slightly closed face to that path to draw it there. However your sub-conscious mind knows you are aimed 30 yards right but doesn't tell the conscious mind that BUT what it does is pretty much force you and your body to do SOMETHING to get the ball to go towards the target which is much further left that you THINK it is and as a result you hook the crap out of it! Now could be path or face doing it but the ROOT CAUSE is the aiming.

I have helped de-hook a few players by simply just working on aim with them. I helped them aim better and like "magic" the ball flight was much more controlled and it was going more where they wanted it to go but it took them some getting used you too.

Sub-conscious mind is a non communicating dictator,the conscious mind never knows what the sub- conscious mind is doing. The sub-conscious is running your golfswing and a lot of other things as well, it's like a tug of war between the two, the subconscious want's to be in control. It doesn't like when the conscious mind tries to take over.
 
Or as Butch Harmon once put it - "he's set-up for an argument".

PS I do the same as you Curtis, so now I always practice with a club laid on the ground on my target line. Obvious, but effective.
 
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Snow poles, one 3 foot in front of the ball on target line and another 3 ft behind the ball give a great insight into where the target line appears when we are "ball side"
 

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Here is what i find with mis-aimers...yes my word lol.

You have conflicting issues..what your conscious mind thinks and what your sub-conscious mind knows

Take you for instance:

Your conscious mind thinks it is aiming correctly and you are planning on hitting a small draw to your target with a slight inside/out path and a slightly closed face to that path to draw it there. However your sub-conscious mind knows you are aimed 30 yards right but doesn't tell the conscious mind that BUT what it does is pretty much force you and your body to do SOMETHING to get the ball to go towards the target which is much further left that you THINK it is and as a result you hook the crap out of it! Now could be path or face doing it but the ROOT CAUSE is the aiming.

I have helped de-hook a few players by simply just working on aim with them. I helped them aim better and like "magic" the ball flight was much more controlled and it was going more where they wanted it to go but it took them some getting used you too.

Fine explanation of "steering"; Homer style.

Our inbuilt instinct to hit the ball directly towards its ultimate destination often overrides the (D Plane) means of actually getting it to arrive there.
 
So Jim, what do you tell your students to do on the course, when you can't lay down clubs? Aiming too left has been my main problem.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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So Jim, what do you tell your students to do on the course, when you can't lay down clubs? Aiming too left has been my main problem.

I help them setup a routine rat works for them. Also you can lay down clubs on the course as long as you pick it back up. I'm pretty sure that is within the rules.
 
I help them setup a routine rat works for them. Also you can lay down clubs on the course as long as you pick it back up. I'm pretty sure that is within the rules.

I am assuming you meant "that" and not "rat". I'll have to try the club thing on the course. Thanks for the tip.
 
It is in the rules

I help them setup a routine that works for them. Also you can lay down clubs on the course as long as you pick it back up. I'm pretty sure that is within the rules.

Yes, it is in the rules provided you do not leave them on the ground during the swing and no visible marks have been left on the ground by the clubs. :)
 
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