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I would be interested in hearing some techniques myself. The pick a spot in front of the ball alignment aid has never worked for me.
 
However you find a line from ball to target, you must then use that line, or one parallel to it under your nose, to trace with your hands. The toy follows the hand that pulls the string: so your HANDS need to be directed along that line. Use anything you want but FIND THAT LINE AND DEFINE IT FOR YOURSELF for your aiming. You are not aiming a ball at the target primarily; your interface with what happens is what you do with your hands, so you have to have a line to trace.
 

rundmc

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joeprunes said:
I`m having a BIG problem lining up correctly. Does anyone have a sure way aligment setup that works.....joe

Dean Reimuth (sp?) had a great alignment procedure on the Golf Channel the other night. Made a lot of sense to me anyway . . .

1. Stand Directly behind the ball facing the target (your target line).
2. If right handed take a BIG step left as if you were going from standing on one railroad track to the other.
3. Walk straight ahead while looking at the target . . . you are walking PARALLEL to your target line . . . you have already taken your grip.
4. Catch the ball out of the corner of the ball as you walk when you start to lose sight of the ball stop.
5. Turn your entire body to face the ball perpendicular to the target line.
6. Sole the club and your body should now be lined up parallel to your target line.

I would also add the follow. . . .

You should also use Ben Doyle's set up procedure. It is awesome. Someone else can expand on this. But it is fantastic for locating ball position relative to low point.
 

Tom Bartlett

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Grp,Line and Balance (Ben Doyle). You can tell anyone that has taken a lesson from Ben because they all do it (me included). He makes you do it before every shot. Stand behind the ball, looking down your target line (ball between you and your target) and grip the club. Second, visualize a line from the ball perpendicular to the target line. Keep visualizing that line as you get in the batter's box. Here is the hard part for most people. As you are measuring distance from the ball by placing clubhead behind the ball with the right forearm on plane with the shaft, BOTH FEET should be to the right (assuming you are right handed) of your perpendicular line with the big toe of your right foot touching the line. You have now physically marked the perpendicular line that you were visualizing with your toe. Now place your left foot across the line to determine ball position in your stance ( Ben has everyone go about one inch left of the line). And finally, move your right foot to the right for balance (Width of stance)
 
"BOTH FEET should be to the right (assuming you are right handed) of your perpendicular line with the big toe of your right foot touching the line."

Did you mean to say that Tom? I don't see how that works.
 

Tom Bartlett

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Yes. Draw a tee on the ground. Top of the tee is the target line. Stem of the tee is your perpendicular line. Ball is where the lines cross. Both feet to the right of 'stem' with right toe touching the stem and left foot behind the right foot and to the right of the stem also, as if you were standing on a balance beam. Most people don't have the left foot FLAT on the ground but more on the toe. Right foot is flat on the ground and a little pigeon toed.
 
Aha!

I get it.

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Why tho? With the balance beam deal....

It's awkward...

Must accomplish something tho I assume.....
 

Tom Bartlett

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So you can mark your perpendicular line, then place left foot for ball position. It is easier to get the perp line staying behind it rather than straddling it.
 
joeprunes said:
I`m having a BIG problem lining up correctly. Does anyone have a sure way aligment setup that works.....joe

Dear Joe,

I have seen Dean Rheinmuth's set-up routine and found it incomplete. I have not seen Ben Doyle's but I trust these guys who have.

If you want to see a very thorough alignment explanation you will find it on Croker's web site under the "9 alignments" video download. The first six concern your question. In Peter's Master's School there is even a higher level of the alignments available.

Does anyone know of a video download of Ben Dolye's address routine that may be available?

Thanks,
spike
 

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joeprunes said:
I`m having a BIG problem lining up correctly. Does anyone have a sure way aligment setup that works.....joe
Learn to do it with putting with perpendicular lines on the ground first.
 
Tom Bartlett said:
Grp,Line and Balance (Ben Doyle). You can tell anyone that has taken a lesson from Ben because they all do it (me included). He makes you do it before every shot. Stand behind the ball, looking down your target line (ball between you and your target) and grip the club. Second, visualize a line from the ball perpendicular to the target line. Keep visualizing that line as you get in the batter's box. Here is the hard part for most people. As you are measuring distance from the ball by placing clubhead behind the ball with the right forearm on plane with the shaft, BOTH FEET should be to the right (assuming you are right handed) of your perpendicular line with the big toe of your right foot touching the line. You have now physically marked the perpendicular line that you were visualizing with your toe. Now place your left foot across the line to determine ball position in your stance ( Ben has everyone go about one inch left of the line). And finally, move your right foot to the right for balance (Width of stance)

Tom:

Sounds like a video answer for this would be great. I think I understand it but a visual demonstration would seal the deal.
 
I seen the Ben Doyle tape. He wouldnt continue his lesson until the student got his alignment right. I`m going to try it today..thanks...joe
 
I think the "intermediate target" technique when done correctly can be more accurate than the "perpendicular to target line" technique, just because the way the human eyes sees things.

Tom, it would be great if you could give an explanation of why you think Ben's way of setting up to the ball is so good. Maybe just the fact that you have a repeatable routine you can use time after time under pressure plays a big part.
 
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Looks to me to be way more precise, then even thinking about intermediate targeting. I see way too many with the intermediate still aiming too much right of what they think. This is why some end up blocking or even pulling shots and don't realize its in there aim. Aiming wrong is #1 on my list why most have a hoist of errand shots. That coconut really gets a work out:eek: .

Ben's way of alignment gives the coconut a little break to let go of your swing.
 
lmisner1040 said:
I see way too many with the intermediate still aiming too much right of what they think.
That's because they don't know how to line up the leading edge to their intermediate target.
 
Or how to use the line to the intermediate target, extend it to infinity on either side of the ball, and then put THEMSELVES parallel to it, AND the clubface perpendicular to it.

I find it easier to face THAT line than to use a 4" or smaller intersecting line of clubface to align ME correctly.
 
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