Mike Thomas (sunmart)
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both male and female are Asians. What has happened to the American players?
All current USGA amateur champions
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Chip Putterman
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Americans turned to celebrity instructors for answers. The Asians used a plan and perspiration. I once read that in the Asian Youth Programs, they don't even hit a ball for the first six months.
Richie3Jack
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Plenty of Asian would be stars go to Leadbetter, Haney and company.
When I lived in Atlanta, the course I played at had a very large Korean population. In fact, if you were dropped down there and didn't know any better, you'd probably think that you were playing a club in Hong Kong. There were plenty of times where I had to wait to get on the range on like a Wednesday at noon because it was full...pretty much all with Korean golfers.
The Asian female population is much more into golf than the American female population. At the club I played at, we had 3 American born jr. female golfers to about 20 Korean female jr. golfers So there, it becomes a numbers thing. Does anybody really believe that Ghana has better athletes than the US because they can beat the US in soccer. I'm not even sure they have better coaching. But when just about EVERYBODY in Ghana plays soccer, takes it seriously from the time they can walk, they are just going to be better than the US where soccer may not even be the 4th most popular sport and when the best athletes usually go to football, baseball, basketball and track.
The men's side I think is different though. I wouldn't expect American born golfers to win every US Amateur and looking at the Pro World Rankings, Yang is the top non-America Asian player at #32.
I expect the next 10 years that the men's game will be like it is today, perhaps the Euros start to dominate more or the Americans dominate more. I think the LPGA will almost exclusively be an Asian tour because they dominate it so much numbers wise.
3JACK
Where is Danny Lee?
Maybe they are.
Lindsey Newman
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I am not sure it's even a fair fight. We still rely on a privatized way to develope talent. Many of these other countries/governments are plucking kids right out of grade school and making them career golfers, just like the Olympics sports. The sports that drive revenue get the attention in America. We have the athletes to dominate any sport we choose. Americas most talented athletes are playing sports other than golf, tennis and soccer.
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The US does not have a periodization plan to produce champion golfers. Hit and miss programs just by the numbers produce some champions. Now that golf is an Olympic sport, the other countries have established NGB's and a sport science team. Most coaches have little knowledge of sport science.
Solution is for the PGA (which it never will do) establish a group of coaches and sport scientists to produce the science of golf. The art of golf is playing (scoring). A group of coaches and sport scientists need to get together and set up a program that will produce champions.
The winner show the poor results of the USA golfers. The tide is changing.
David
The US does not have a periodization plan to produce champion golfers. Hit and miss programs just by the numbers produce some champions. Now that golf is an Olympic sport, the other countries have established NGB's and a sport science team. Most coaches have little knowledge of sport science.
Solution is for the PGA (which it never will do) establish a group of coaches and sport scientists to produce the science of golf. The art of golf is playing (scoring). A group of coaches and sport scientists need to get together and set up a program that will produce champions.
The winner show the poor results of the USA golfers. The tide is changing.
David
Richie3Jack
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That wasn't my point.
It's that the percentage of people born in Ghana who play soccer and take it seriously is so much higher than people born in the US, that in the end, they out-number the US in seriously driven soccer players and thus they have traditionally better soccer players and better teams than the US. The US population is far bigger than the Ghana population and we have far more resources. We also have a bigger population than the main Asian countries that like golf, North and South Korea. It's not really about 'athletes', but a numbers game.
As far as the men's side of golf, I don't see the Koreans or the Japanese dominating the game anytime soon. As far as the female side, they already dominate the game and I don't see them ever relinquishing it in my lifetime. But, we have far more people and far better resources available for female golfers than they do, but the interest level is nowhere near the same.
I think we get too mythical into the Korean golfer development. Hell, the winner of the US Amateur is a Leadbetter Academy guy IIRC. And from talking to many Korean jr. golfers, they pretty much all use swing instruction from Leadbetter, Haney and Harmon swing videos and books.
3JACK
There's an economic issue at play here as well. Most American golfers have families that have adequate financial resources that allow them access to the game.
That is not necessarily the case with the Asian golfers, where a relatively poor child that demonstrates talent in golf can be pulled out of school and put into a golf program that is government sponsored. For some of these kids it's there way out of poverty, and it makes me believe they are a lot hungrier than a lot of American Kids.
That is not necessarily the case with the Asian golfers, where a relatively poor child that demonstrates talent in golf can be pulled out of school and put into a golf program that is government sponsored. For some of these kids it's there way out of poverty, and it makes me believe they are a lot hungrier than a lot of American Kids.
Lindsey Newman
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Lol, complete and utter cr*p .. All sports have technique and there are plenty of Athletes across the globe if you didn't notice
Not that a Wiki search is 100% reliable, but.....
Golf major championship since the 1860's
USA - 257
Europe - 109
Everyone else - 48
As we say here in the USA - SCOREBOARD!
Richie3Jack
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And golf was far more popular in Britain than it was in the US for about the first 80 of those years as well.
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Frans@France
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and how many of those golf major championship are held in Europe and who won there?
Europe : British Open
Europe - 76
USA - 42
aaron_lohan
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I think you are underselling your country, you have an excellent structure of junior comps and tours for many age groups played on many great courses throughout the country, once they no longer juniors they go to college which provides a high level of competition and prepares the best golfers for a pro career. The fact many non US golfers go to US colleges show that it is a good system. The structure is in place your juniors need to take advantage of it.
aaron_lohan
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Il also add the junior tours and college system is far superior to anything we have in europe, yet we are producing many great golfers and winning Ryder Cups on a regular basis (except 2008 ).
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