An idea for those who fight an inside takeaway. .

[mrodock]

Just before you start the club back with your torso turn, push the butt end of the grip down an inch or two with a decent amount of pressure from your left hand. This assists the wrist cock and helps prevent a rolling of the hands on the way back. Just started to experiment with it and it seems to yield some very good results.

Matt

 

[EdZ]

Indeed, that is a key feel for an 'early wrist set' type of motion which helps keep the clubhead outside the hands and helps you get 'under' the shaft.

 

[Agent99]

Hi, I am new here but thought I would add to this thread:

I am one who fights and inside takeaway and I have used the low hands idea to improve this.

Another thing that causes me to take club inside, is a bad habit of forward pressing (push hands forward before takeaway).

I have just realised that if I do a forward press, my wrists are partially cocked sideways. This prevents the normal vertical wrist cock from occuring.

I tested this by adressing ball normally with no forward press, then raise clubhead as far as it will go, then make a full shoulder turn. My 66 year old body gets the club close to horizontal.

I then started with a partial forward press and went through same procedure. Now club head points up about 45 deg at top of swing. Clearly, this is what is preventing my club from reaching horizontal.

It's still too cold to practice here, but I think I will work indoors on eliminating the forward press. Any drills that might help would be welcomed!

PS - 66yrs old, 7-9 handicap, male, heavy build.

 

[Jared Willerson]

Doesn't Brian advocate a forward press? The forward press actually cured me of taking it to far to the inside. By setting the hands and giving them the responsibility of just holding on, they no longer whip the club, they were given a task and now they perform it, where used to they do things to their own accord. "Educated Hands" I would guess.

Check out Brian's swings as well as Finney's both perform a slight forward press to start their motion.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

If you have a problem taking the club away to the inside here's what you do:

You pretend there is a vertical wall right in front of you and then you simply "lift" the club up that wall while turning your shoulders.

For a better explanation, please buy brian's "Never Hook Again."

 

[FL-John]

I can also speak from experience. For me, an overly inside takeaway was caused by not understanding the plane, I felt as a 'good' backswing was way outside. Once I started using Right Forearm Takeaway and trusted it, the too inside went away. Initially, the backswing felt like I was getting ready to chop some wood!

The other thing that may cause this is initiating the shoulder turn instead of letting the shouldern turn when it is being pulled. My thought is this: Form your 'Tripod'...take club back with right forearm and move hands to where I want them to be....the shoulders will turn when they are ready.

I've been working with my dad on this same thing...he gets the right forearm takeaway, but for years he has added the shoulder turn right away. Now, I'll have him take a backswing while I push on his left shoulder (standing in front of him) to ensure he doesn't use too much shoulders on the way back (causing the inside).

FL-John

 

[Agent99]

quote:Originally posted by glcoach

Doesn't Brian advocate a forward press? The forward press actually cured me of taking it to far to the inside.

Check out Brian's swings as well as Finney's both perform a slight forward press to start their motion.

I can see that a very slight forward press may get the swing started. In my case, my hands move forward a bit more and this causes the clubhead to be more or less in line with the straight front (left for me) arm. Because of the sidways cock that this produces, the wrists cannot be cocked fully in the "proper" vertical plane. It is easy enough to go through the drill I mentioned to prove this.

I still forward press no matter how hard I try, but try to minimize it. I have tried starting with more weight on my front foot and then taking the clubhead back very slowly for a few inches just to get it started - seems to help, if I remember to do it!

 

[Jared Willerson]

quote:Originally posted by Agent99

I can see that a very slight forward press may get the swing started. In my case, my hands move forward a bit more and this causes the clubhead to be more or less in line with the straight front (left for me) arm. Because of the sidways cock that this produces, the wrists cannot be cocked fully in the "proper" vertical plane. It is easy enough to go through the drill I mentioned to prove this.

I still forward press no matter how hard I try, but try to minimize it. I have tried starting with more weight on my front foot and then taking the clubhead back very slowly for a few inches just to get it started - seems to help, if I remember to do it!

I am refering to what Manzella says in his Building Blocks video. I found just the opposite. Setting the hands with a forward press, frees up the wrists at the top of the swing, I also have better sequencing.

The golf swing according to TGM dogma is all about options, so if no forward press works for you, then great, as long as the imperatives are in place, that is all that matters.