As Accurate as Possible

[tongzilla]

What's the best way to make a reasonably good ball striker super accurate? A lot of guys say you need to give up distance by swinging softer or shortening the swing, but in my experience you give up a lot of distance while gaining only a little accuracy doing this.

 

[jenhaoyen]

controlling the clubhead?

 

[mb6606]

What's the best way to make a reasonably good ball striker super accurate? A lot of guys say you need to give up distance by swinging softer or shortening the swing, but in my experience you give up a lot of distance while gaining only a little accuracy doing this.

Clubface then plane same as in putting.

 

[dannyc]

What's the best way to make a reasonably good ball striker super accurate? A lot of guys say you need to give up distance by swinging softer or shortening the swing, but in my experience you give up a lot of distance while gaining only a little accuracy doing this.

random thoughts:

i think a lot of it is just talent

most of the time, when i swing softer, i know subconsciously i am trying to hit it straighter, end up steering and hit it worse!

as tom bartlett said, its like learning to walk a tightrope...

 

[birdie_man]

I dunno.

It would depend on the individual and what they need no?

Maybe there are common things you would see in such top level strikers. (common points needing improvement I mean)

I was gonna say hitting a fade seems to be a pretty common denominator. It's common enough I guess. Moe Norman and Byron Nelson hit straight balls mostly I think tho.

 

[Richie3Jack]

What's the best way to make a reasonably good ball striker super accurate? A lot of guys say you need to give up distance by swinging softer or shortening the swing, but in my experience you give up a lot of distance while gaining only a little accuracy doing this.

I'm not sure there's one way to make a reasonably good ballstriker super accurate. But, if I was going to start I would look at Moe Norman because he was *probably* the most accurate golfer of all time.

I've looked at Moe's swing a lot and I think he did a few things that other golfers didn't do or didn't do nearly as well as he did that made him incredibly accurate.

Then Moe had an uncanny ability to repeat it time and time again (of course, he worked extremely hard at it as well).





3JACK

 

[tongzilla]

i guess a better question to ask is what makes a swing repeatable? or does it just take 1000s of hours of practice?

 

[Tball88]

Learn how to angle hinge properly. Much easier to dial in distance than with a horizontal hinge.


Find some posts on the web by a gentlemen who goes by Lagpressure.

He's got some interesting ideas about this and played on both the US and Australian Tours

 

[Brian Manzella]

$28,000, plus $300 a month

Yup.

$28,000, plus $300 a month!

That's how muh TrackMan costs.

But, Leo, if we could get you on TrackMan, or for that matter anyone with a talented swing, we could make you silly accurate.

I have not "practiced" on TrackMan yet, but I will soon, and I PROMISE I'll get so dialed in it will be a joke.

You just have to make a lot of really good guesses without it.

For example, let's say I wanted to hit a straight ball with my 6-iron down, and a fade with my long clubs.

I have to know EXACTLY where to AIM my plane line, AIM my body to that plane line, control the clubface, ball position, and speed.

That ain't that easy, but with this machine....no problem.

I'd say if we tested you, and then worked with TrackMan for a week, two hours a day, you improve your accuracy by 200% or more.

Really.

 

[tongzilla]

Brian, I love pie in the sky answers...but this pie might actually be reachable...muahahah

One more question Brian, with your own eyes, do you think you can "see" what trackman "sees" on a student's swing?

 

[Richie3Jack]

Note to self: When you win the lottery, purchase the Trackman.




3JACK

 

[Brian Manzella]

Note to self: When you win the lottery, purchase the Trackman.

You are correct there, Rich.

 

[Kevin Shields]

Yup.

$28,000, plus $300 a month!

That's how muh TrackMan costs.

But, Leo, if we could get you on TrackMan, or for that matter anyone with a talented swing, we could make you silly accurate.

I have not "practiced" on TrackMan yet, but I will soon, and I PROMISE I'll get so dialed in it will be a joke.

You just have to make a lot of really good guesses without it.

For example, let's say I wanted to hit a straight ball with my 6-iron down, and a fade with my long clubs.

I have to know EXACTLY where to AIM my plane line, AIM my body to that plane line, control the clubface, ball position, and speed.

That ain't that easy, but with this machine....no problem.

I'd say if we tested you, and then worked with TrackMan for a week, two hours a day, you improve your accuracy by 200% or more.

Really.

This is precisely what our March get together will be about. I think once you get acceptable Trackman numbers, the secret will be aiming it and that is what we're gonna do!

 

[birdie_man]

You just have to make a lot of really good guesses without it.

For example, let's say I wanted to hit a straight ball with my 6-iron down, and a fade with my long clubs.

I have to know EXACTLY where to AIM my plane line, AIM my body to that plane line, control the clubface, ball position, and speed.

If you must do all this (or if it at least makes things that much easier)............how did some of the best ballstrikers get so good? (hitting all kinds of shots all the while)

 

[birdie_man]

Near-ideal mechanics and great Guesstimator abilities?

How in-depth and specific do you think some of these guys got with:

"What do I have to do (setup and swing-wise) to make the ball do precisely 'this'...?"

Anything approaching what you would do with your Trackman numbers?

I'm not saying detail is a bad thing BTW.