"Average" Pro Swing - 10 years later

[mjstrong]

I was reading through an article that referenced Fred Griffin & Ralph Mann's "Swing Like a Pro," which is a model based on the composite swing of over 100 top professional swings. The book was published in 1998.

This got me to wondering, what would the "composite" swing of the top 100 pros look like just over 10 years later? Would there be any differences? What would they be? Have certain recent "methods" changed players actual habits enough to result in a different composite swing?

The 3D data available now would be much more accurate and detailed than 10 years ago, and I wonder how reliable it was...?

 

[aaron_lohan]

I was reading through an article that referenced Fred Griffin & Ralph Mann's "Swing Like a Pro," which is a model based on the composite swing of over 100 top professional swings. The book was published in 1998.

This got me to wondering, what would the "composite" swing of the top 100 pros look like just over 10 years later? Would there be any differences? What would they be? Have certain recent "methods" changed players actual habits enough to result in a different composite swing?

The 3D data available now would be much more accurate and detailed than 10 years ago, and I wonder how reliable it was...?

In my opinion swings seem to be a bit flatter and more "connected" as they say, they seem to be getting shorter particularly with irons. People seem to keep the right foot down for longer than before. Seems to me to be influenced by Tiger Woods.

 

[aaron_lohan]

I was reading through an article that referenced Fred Griffin & Ralph Mann's "Swing Like a Pro," which is a model based on the composite swing of over 100 top professional swings. The book was published in 1998.

This got me to wondering, what would the "composite" swing of the top 100 pros look like just over 10 years later? Would there be any differences? What would they be? Have certain recent "methods" changed players actual habits enough to result in a different composite swing?

The 3D data available now would be much more accurate and detailed than 10 years ago, and I wonder how reliable it was...?

do you have a link to that article btw

 

[matt kluck]

Fred Griffin

Aaron,
Give Fred a call, be nice and ask. He is very generous with his information.
MK

 

[Kevin Shields]

Nothing to back it up, but I bet it would show todays top players swing more left than ten years ago.

 

[mjstrong]

do you have a link to that article btw

It was a book, not an article. Swing Like a Pro, Dr. Ralph Mann and Fred Griffin. Broadway Books, New York. 1998.

 

[tongzilla]

Nothing to back it up, but I bet it would show todays top players swing more left than ten years ago.

Why is that? Because of playing conditions or swing gurus? Is it a good or bad thing?

 

[Kevin Shields]

I just think guys have figured it out one way or another. I remember more hooks ten years ago. Again, nothing to back it up. And yes, I would think its a good thing, even though I dont think its being taught as well as it could.

 

[Richie3Jack]

Plus, if you watch the pros getting ready for a shot, there appears a lot more pros take practice swings with an exagerrated swinging left motion.

I also think there's much more weight on the left side during the swing now than 10 years ago due to popularity of S&T method.



3JACK

 

[burners]

Question

When you guys talk about swinging left, do you mean players are aligning their plane lines more to the left and just swinging naturally up that plane?

Or, are you talking about an overall flatter plane with players just "finishing" flatter with their hands lower?

Or, something else? Thanks.

 

[mjstrong]

I just think guys have figured it out one way or another. I remember more hooks ten years ago. Again, nothing to back it up. And yes, I would think its a good thing, even though I dont think its being taught as well as it could.

I agree. I think "fearing the left side" became more popular at some point for the top level players.

 

[burners]

Kevin

I've sent you a PM on this general topic.