Axis tilt/open shoulders relationship

[rchang72]

Brian,

In your "My week" video, you mentioned the relationship that the angle of the axis tilt equals the angle the shoulders are open at impact. Which is the first thing that the golfer needs to determine: the axis tilt angle or the open shoulder angle. What I mean is that should you strive for a certain axis tilt first, then make your shoulders match? Or will the shoulders open up automatically (which I doubt actually happens).

 

[shootin4par]

Brian,

In your "My week" video, you mentioned the relationship that the angle of the axis tilt equals the angle the shoulders are open at impact. Which is the first thing that the golfer needs to determine: the axis tilt angle or the open shoulder angle. What I mean is that should you strive for a certain axis tilt first, then make your shoulders match? Or will the shoulders open up automatically (which I doubt actually happens).

figure out how/why you are not getting the axis tilt first and maybe the shoulders will magically take care of themselves aslo When you get the exis tile the right shoulder goes down plane easier
if you try for more open shoulders you may just end up round housing

 

[shortgamer]

Something I have found is when I think of hitting the ball with the right shoulder my left shoulder moves up but not back so shoulders are close to square at impact. When I started thinking left shoulder up and then back my shoulders where open at impact and had better shot's.Greatly improved the plane of my followthrough because now the club goes inside after impact instead of up. Not a answer to your question but may be of some use later?

 

[Brian Manzella]

Brian,

In your "My week" video, you mentioned the relationship that the angle of the axis tilt equals the angle the shoulders are open at impact. Which is the first thing that the golfer needs to determine: the axis tilt angle or the open shoulder angle. What I mean is that should you strive for a certain axis tilt first, then make your shoulders match? Or will the shoulders open up automatically (which I doubt actually happens).

Nothing happens automatically, per se.

Here is the deal:

When your right shoulder moves on the downstroke, it has an PLANE ANGLE and also a PLANE LINE--at least for a portion of the downstroke.

To "trace" a stright Shoulder PLane Line, you need the BOTTOM of the spine to move forward AND backward some. If you don';t belive this, go buy a "Artist's model" and try to get it to lokk like Hogan or Tiger.

In plain english, the shoulders HAVE TO OPEN about as much as the AXIS TILTs.

Of course unless you are losing your #4 Accumulator Angle (The Left Arm across the chest) rapidly.

PGA TOUR Average is about 35% of both, give or take a few degrees.

To learn to do this, I have several drills, but, a good one to start on is simply THROWING a golf ball straight down the target line. It should HIT THE GROUND about 3 to 7 yrads pass the real ball and bounce straight.

[Note: The Book Police will say the ball should CROSS the target line, becuase thrust theorically does. Well, video yourself doing both and tell me whish one looks more "Golf Like."]