BAH HUMBUG!!!!

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BAH HUMBUG!!!


or the Grinch That Stole My Golf Swing

I've been visited by the Ghosts of CHristmas golf tips past and present. Yesterday, I was told I need more hip turn and less slide. Today, another guy told me my ball placement was too forward and my swing needed to bottom out behind the ball. Well I was half listening while my mind screamed "Why me?. I've been a good boy all year, why am I being punished?"Results? Worst ballstriking in two weeks. I had successfully rebuilt and tinkered with my swing from the ground up, one component and literally one body part at a time. Heck, I was even hoping I could soon hit a 200 yd iron straight or a 250 yd drive in the near future. Back to hackersville.

Thankfully, the Ghost of Christmas golf tip future won't bother me because I have to get to the airport at 4 in the morning.

BAH HUMBUG!!!!!!
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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I think i'm going to make a t-shirt that says:

I'M PRACTICING...KEEP YOUR TIPS TO YOURSELF

My problem at the range is too many people keep coming up and bothering me about what that "sound" is and how is it i hit the ball so well with such "ease."

I have to find a way to be nice while saying i'm really practicing here and can't really talk much.
 
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Brian Manzella

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The next time someone comes up to you on the range, and ask you what you are working on, tell them this:

"I was trying to use maximum trigger delay with a simultaneous release and drag loading, but I find that if I full sweep load on the backstoke with a double shift plane variation, I really am better off with a random sweep release and horizontal hinge action."

...trust me ;)
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

The next time someone comes up to you on the range, and ask you what you are working on, tell them this:

"I was trying to use maximum trigger delay with a simultaneous release and drag loading, but I find that if I full sweep load on the backstoke with a double shift plane variation, I really am better off with a random sweep release and horizontal hinge action."

...trust me ;)
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LMAO....

Hmmm maybe i should change that t-shirt to say "rain man."
 
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horton

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Did Homer try to teach anybody the golfswing ... I wonder ... or did he figure all this out by just watching others, looking at pictures and trying it out on himself? He really gave us an insight into his thinking process in TGM, and succeeded in getting TGM by publishing it on his own. He accomplished a lot regardless of his detractors.
 
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6bee1dee

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Homer taught many students to swing a golf club. I have a video tape of him teaching a class. He taught Yoda. Yoda teaches many students, including me. Circle of life.
 
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horton

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6bee -- So how did Homer validate his theories on the golfswing? We know his science was shaky, and his struggles for acceptance were long and difficult, so how did he sell his ideas to so few, and why was he rejected by so many?
 
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quote:Originally posted by horton

6bee -- So how did Homer validate his theories on the golfswing? We know his science was shaky, and his struggles for acceptance were long and difficult, so how did he sell his ideas to so few, and why was he rejected by so many?
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So how does HORTON validate his theories on the golfswing? I do not know whether your science is shaky or not, but your struggles for acceptance have been difficult, so far. How do you sell your ideas to so few, and why are you being rejected by so many?

You don't have to answer, these are rhetorical questions. The diagrams you have posted look like they were lifted off of Jack Kuykendall's site. Fine. Whatever. Since no one knows who you are, where you come from, or what your track record is, you have no foundation for credibility. Brian, Chuck, and Yoda have this foundation. We all know who they are, where they are, and what they can do (their respective abilities and track records are pretty darn impressive).

Yes, you have been treated rudely by some of the yap dogs that frequent this site, but in turn, your attitude is arrogant and condescending beyond all belief. And your "scientific" posts contribute nothing to the practical task at hand--that is, improving one's results on the golf course.

If you think you can "fix" Homer's book, go do it. Come back when you've got a finished product. I will be first in line to read it. The Yellow Book is a maze (and amazing). If your efforts improve it, I will sing your praises. Until then, I regard you as just one more Troll littering the vast garage sale that is the Manzella Golf Forum (not a complaint-- I enjoy rummaging through the crap).

:):):):):) Lotsa smileys here to indicate that I'm posting with a smile, not a snarl.
 
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horton

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quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

I never saw a rejection list. Can I have some names?

What method do you sell? Can I check its acceptence?
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Names you want names? How about the PGA (Professional Golfers of America)? How about B. Manzella who stated that TGM is only one of his many credentials for teaching the golfswing.

I am only trying to sell the idea that TGM must be Simplified into a form that is understandable to average golfers such as the works of ...... Hogan, Jones, McLean, Leadbetter, others too numerous to mention.

Hiding TGM behind faulty science and labyrinthine explanations is not conducive to acceptance by anybody except oddballs and shysters trying to make a buck on the naive .... imho ....
 
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quote:Originally posted by horton

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

I never saw a rejection list. Can I have some names?

What method do you sell? Can I check its acceptence?
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Names you want names? How about the PGA (Professional Golfers of America)? How about B. Manzella who stated that TGM is only one of his many credentials for teaching the golfswing.

I am only trying to sell the idea that TGM must be Simplified into a form that is understandable to average golfers such as the works of ...... Hogan, Jones, McLean, Leadbetter, others too numerous to mention.

Hiding TGM behind faulty science and labyrinthine explanations is not conducive to acceptance by anybody except oddballs and shysters trying to make a buck on the naive .... imho ....
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I still don't what you mean by rejection, several top 100 instructors are AIs. Horton, what swing method do you train by? I don't remember you stating what yours is.
 
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Mathew

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

The next time someone comes up to you on the range, and ask you what you are working on, tell them this:

"I was trying to use maximum trigger delay with a simultaneous release and drag loading, but I find that if I full sweep load on the backstoke with a double shift plane variation, I really am better off with a random sweep release and horizontal hinge action."

...trust me ;)
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Brian ...

Im interested how are you meant to use a maximum trigger delay with simultaneous release which is basically a part of the hitting procedure in chapter 12 as opposed to the sequenced release of the swinger. You cannot(I think) have maximum trigger delay with radial acceleration via the thrust using acc #1 hence the word simultaneous release... Drag loading and (dual) horizontal hinging also puts itself in the swinging category but again the swinger uses a sequenced release of #4 (#1 being passive) #2 then #3 is not a simultaneous release hence why the hitting pattern is labeled drive loading.

Was it just a lil error or have I gotten something wrong ?

ps. It would be funny if I said that back to you on the range in responce... :))..lol
 
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quote:Originally posted by Mathew

quote:Originally posted by brianman

The next time someone comes up to you on the range, and ask you what you are working on, tell them this:

"I was trying to use maximum trigger delay with a simultaneous release and drag loading, but I find that if I full sweep load on the backstoke with a double shift plane variation, I really am better off with a random sweep release and horizontal hinge action."

...trust me ;)
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Brian ...

Im interested how are you meant to use a maximum trigger delay with simultaneous release which is basically a part of the hitting procedure in chapter 12 as opposed to the sequenced release of the swinger. You cannot(I think) have maximum trigger delay with radial acceleration via the thrust using acc #1 hence the word simultaneous release... Drag loading and (dual) horizontal hinging also puts itself in the swinging category but again the swinger uses a sequenced release of #4 (#1 being passive) #2 then #3 is not a simultaneous release hence why the hitting pattern is labeled drive loading.

Was it just a lil error or have I gotten something wrong ?

ps. It would be funny if I said that back to you on the range in responce... :))..lol

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6-B-1-0. THE FIRST POWER ACCUMULATOR is the Bent Right Arm-the Hitter's Muscle Power Accumulator.

6-B-1-C. MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY is gained by causing the Right Elbow to "Pass the Ball" – which is the Line-of-Sight to the Ball – before Release.
 
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DDL

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A day after a session of powerful shots, albeit with pulls and hooks, another golfing Santa Claus decides to add another chapter to my Christmas Carol. I went to the other side of the range to avoid anyone I see on a regular basis . Well, the very first guy in front of me, who I had never seen before, decides to inform me I am not cocking my wrists enough.

I was practicing pitch shots with a driver, which is part of my normal, inflexible routine. Very little left wrist cock. Now I tried to tell him these were short shots, but nooooooo, Father Shankmas insisted I fully cock my wrists. Nothing consciously harmful in what he said. However, in a Manchurian Candidate brainwashing sort of way, I wasn't my real self.

I usually use half of my balls to hit chips and pitch shots, whereby I gradually gain better timing and rhythm( usually). 12-5-1,12-5-2. However, I was helpless against the insidious overpowering mind control exerted by the Ghost of Golf Tips Future. He used the word, wrists, plural. I monitored my right wrist to make sure it wasn't cocking. No right wrist cock. Or was it really uncocked? Had I really established the flying wedges, or had my memories been altered by Dr Yen Lo Leadbetter? Well anyway, I lost my power, but did gain a lot of massive hooks.
 
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