ball control, club face control

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deepdivot

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Brian, in many posts you have made reference to the need for club face control inorder to control the golf ball. What drills, exercises or images can you suggest for a player to improve his club face control. Is it possible to learn superior club face control or is this a god given gift?
 
Good grip for starters.

The left hand controls the clubface and the right hand controls the clubhead meaning the the right hand is power- the pressure points 1 and 3 dump the clubhead down onto the ball and the left hand is clubface control- roll, swivel and hinge action. Sounds like a lot but easy to learn.
 

redan

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I thought it was left hand controls clubface, right hand controls clubhead, and control the shaft [swingplane] to control the ball?
 
quote:Originally posted by redan

I thought it was left hand controls clubface, right hand controls clubhead, and control the shaft [swingplane] to control the ball?

I was addressing his clubface issues but I think it would be the right forearm that controls the shaft. The right hand does trace the plane line.
 

rwh

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In TGM parlance, the Plane is clubshaft control. Mr. Kelley said that everything else must conform to the Plane.
 
Depends if you are a Swinger or Hitter....

Standard vs. Single Wrist Action mostly....

i.e. Startup Swivel (independent forearm rotation from rest of arm) vs. no Swivel.

I always try to eliminate the left side totally.....don't want it to start left....don't want it to curve left either.....unless I want to draw it.

It really is much easier to show someone how to do this stuff in person....

Gotta go to bed.

Ask if you have more questions.
 
When you say 'wayward', are they more slices or hooks? And what would you rather

do with your traj? I recommend learning to draw it and going from there. Commit to

horizontal hingeing without bending your wrist and your shots will be more predictable.
 

deepdivot

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was rather hoping for some specific drills to improve my erratic clubface control.I know lasers are helpful, but i thought that was for clubshaft control as opposed to clubface.Chuck Evans suggests racket drills to improve clubface control,anyone got other drills or images?
 

deepdivot

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Brian, do you have any suggestions?Perhaps i am destined to wander around in the rough or trees for golfing eternity!!!!!!!
 

Pro

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Deep divot,
not Brian but i would suggest some chip and pitch shots using the different hinge actions, train your left wrist to control the clubface, start small going through the motions, add speed, add pivot, make motion bigger until the point where you feel you lose clubface control, work from there!!!
1/2 roll feel, no roll feel, reverse roll feel, all done while keeping the left wrist flat!!!
Working on anything else only brings more confusion.

Todd
 

Brian Manzella

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Sorry...I been moving my Mom across the country for 4 days.....

First, you need to learn to do the Doyle-esque Full Roll with a dead flat left wrist to the wedding ring up position.

Then you need to learn to hit it straight, right-to-left and LEFT-TO-RIGHT that way. (Ted Fort is still in disbelief on the left-to-right)

Follow that with strong Bobby Schaffer-type "power pitches" with all three hinge actions.

Then report back for lesson 2.
 
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First, you need to learn to do the Doyle-esque Full Roll with a dead flat left wrist to the wedding ring up position.

Then you need to learn to hit it straight, right-to-left and LEFT-TO-RIGHT that way. (Ted Fort is still in disbelief on the left-to-right)

Yep!

Those who say that you can't hit the ball LEFT-TO-RIGHT with full roll is saying that you can't hit fades with Horizontal Hinging. Which is obviously NOT true!
 
Great minds think alike..Manzella: "Full Roll with a dead flat left wrist"..McKinney: "horizontal hingeing without bending your wrist"..
Homer used the word "tends" while describing hinges and trajectories.
He did not say "guarantees".
 
Looks like Gregg is hitting out of some type of simulated rough. The grounds resistance to going to low point, not Vertical Hinging LOL.
 
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