base of spine on backswing - reverse pivot?

[shankerduder]

Hi:
I am new to this site and came accross this quote from Brian in the Perfect Pivot 1 thread. "The golfer needs to make absolutely sure that the base of the spine does not move toward the target during this sharp hip turn process." Is this correct or a misprint? It seems like it is a recipe for a reverse pivot??

 

[fronesis]

There may not be any answers for two reasons:
1. Even though this is the person's first post, they addressed the question to Brian only. I'll be very honest here, I don't fully understand why some threads are for Brian or the Manzella academy only. I always assumed that those were people who were working with Brian or Manzella instructors in person, and were therefore using the board to get in touch with them. For the rest of us who just come here and soak up all this great information for free, it doesn't make any sense that we should be presumptious enough to *expect* an answer from Brian - or even to say that we don't want to hear what others think.

2. In the perfect pivot article Brian explains why not letting the base of the spine move toward the target is precisely what allows one to avoid a reverse pivot. And if you look at the pictures there you'll see that Brian's perfect pivot' has more movement away from and behind the ball then some of the other teachings these days. For example, the stack and tilt pivot comes very close to a reverse pivot. Whereas Brian's pivot is very traditional very much as far from reversing as one can get. Thus, the original poster's question is hard to follow: it's not a recipe for a reverse pivot because it's a recipe for avoiding a reverse pivot.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Hi:
I am new to this site and came accross this quote from Brian in the Perfect Pivot 1 thread. "The golfer needs to make absolutely sure that the base of the spine does not move toward the target during this sharp hip turn process." Is this correct or a misprint? It seems like it is a recipe for a reverse pivot??

If your TAILBONE (base of spine) moves TOWARD THE TARGET on the backswing (a bunch), and your upper body makes a "orthodox" movement, you will be OVER LEANING TO THE RIGHT at the top, making your FALL into the left leg very dicey.

There is some teachers that teach this (tailbone toward the target) as a transition move LATE in the so-called BACKSWING.

This is perfectly acceptable...ala Hogan as described by VJ Trollio.