belly putters
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Too much premium is placed on putting and it will stifle if not kill the game.Putting is the most time consuming part of the game.Most people don't want to spend 4 or 5 hours playing 18 holes.Average rounds should be 3 hours and under.
I would not just let them keep belly putters but make the hole bigger like 6 or even 7 inches.The best ballstrikers will win more often and rounds will take less time.Three footers will be tap ins unless you have a serious case of the yips.This alone will save time.
The reason why the cup is the size it is was due to the size of an excess pipe they had lying around which they used to cut the hole when golf first started.
I would not just let them keep belly putters but make the hole bigger like 6 or even 7 inches.The best ballstrikers will win more often and rounds will take less time.Three footers will be tap ins unless you have a serious case of the yips.This alone will save time.
The reason why the cup is the size it is was due to the size of an excess pipe they had lying around which they used to cut the hole when golf first started.
birly-shirly
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Wouldn't a bigger hole just lead to yipping from further away?
I wouldn't call myself a good putter - but I've never been convinced that a bigger hole would help me (relative to other golfers). Right now, most putts (whoever you are) miss - and I do think that I'm capable of two putting most of the time. Make the hole larger though, and good putters might be holing from all over the place, widening the gap between good and bad putters, not closing it.
I wouldn't call myself a good putter - but I've never been convinced that a bigger hole would help me (relative to other golfers). Right now, most putts (whoever you are) miss - and I do think that I'm capable of two putting most of the time. Make the hole larger though, and good putters might be holing from all over the place, widening the gap between good and bad putters, not closing it.
Sure you could start yipping them from farther away but if you leave the second putt more than 5 ft away then you deserve to 3 putt.
I also doubt even good putters will be able to roll them all in from 30 ft away even with a 7 in hole.Good ballstikers who hit it closer will be rewarded a bit more with easier 10 and 15 footers.
All this is secondry to time saving which for the future of the game is important.It will also make the game easier for the average player who doesn't have the time to work on their long and short games.The majority of people that play golf are average players.
mgranato
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Exactly. This has been a pet peeve of mine for a long time. All this nonsense of heavier thicker rough to punish imperfect driving is silly. The inherent precision of golf is/should be found only on one place... the greens. Getting to the green should not be the "ultimate test" of precision, that should come on the green when you are taking dead aim at holing the next shot. More time is wasted and spent off the greens. I would much rather play behind a 20 handicapper taking an extra putt or two than him taking an extra shot or two from the rough or trees. Basketball, football, tennis, hockey, checkers, chess, etc all get tougher as you get closer to the objective... why should golf be different?
Brian Manzella
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For the 1000th time....
They play a tunamint back in the day with 8.5 inch holes.
The best putter/chipper won.
They play a tunamint back in the day with 8.5 inch holes.
The best putter/chipper won.
Well,that's just one tournament and bit a dangerous to draw any conclusions from that but even better if it is the case.
The guy with the better short game can still win and the game will be made a little easier for the weekend player who has no time to practice every facet of golf.Play is sped up not messing around with 3 footers.Older players with the yips will rejoice as well.
Win win.
The guy with the better short game can still win and the game will be made a little easier for the weekend player who has no time to practice every facet of golf.Play is sped up not messing around with 3 footers.Older players with the yips will rejoice as well.
Win win.
If USGA/R&A bans the anchoring, Bradley should have no issues with those bodies - rather he should sue the PGA Tour if they go ahead and use those rules. The PGA Tour could do something entirely different conceivably, so his beef is with the rules of competition...where he makes his livelihood.
I do hope they do get banned and suggest those who use them man up and learn to putt properly. I thought these guys were good? Clearly not if they can only putt with a putter thats anchored.
If one of them does take legal action i cant see them winning and would be a pretty desperate act imo.
If one of them does take legal action i cant see them winning and would be a pretty desperate act imo.
birly-shirly
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I'd like to see governing bodies able to legislate in the best interests of the game without threat of litigation. But I still think they're chasing the wrong hare on this one. What saddens me is the idea that long/anchored putters might be seen as a soft target in that none of the big manufacturers are massively invested. I'm positive that ball and/or driver re-regulation would be much more fiercely fought.
birly-shirly
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Also, I'm in favour of speeding up play - but as regards course set-up, the only problem I see is excessive rough. Typically, I think play slows down because golfers don't care enough to speed up - not because they face unduly difficult putts.
Let's face it,the higher the stakes(money involved),the more time you are likely to take over putts,studying the break from every angle possible.I can't see how making 3 or 4 foot putts tap ins won't save a lot of time.
As regards setup,I would make courses with no rough but lots of other hazards like trees and fairway bunkers.No wasted time looking for balls or reloading off the tee.
As for long putters,I don't see a problem.Everyone can use it.The players who complain about it's unfair advantage could go get one themselves.
As regards setup,I would make courses with no rough but lots of other hazards like trees and fairway bunkers.No wasted time looking for balls or reloading off the tee.
As for long putters,I don't see a problem.Everyone can use it.The players who complain about it's unfair advantage could go get one themselves.
Exactly the way Jones designed Augusta; and why the course is not the same with "second cut"...
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