Ben Hogan

[spuds64]

I am sure many people know what I am about to write. But it really sunk in while watching the dvd of Hogan "In pursuit of perfection".
I have read in this forum by Brian and others that your axis tilt should increase during downswing. Ben Hogan shows a way to do this, way befor he even reaches the end of his backswing. In Hogan's backswing he transfers his weight very early onto his right side.But while his hips are still turning, he makes a very pronounce lateral move(onto left side),which dramatically increases the axis tilt, this is a almost fail safe way of attacking the ball from the inside.

 

[hue]

I look at it differently. The reason you want axis tilt is to provide a free lane for the trail shoulder to go downplane. My intention is to make that shoulder go downplane and the hip bump that creates axis tilt allows it rather than motivate and drive the downplane motion. It is a great movie . You see a lot of things that Brian teaches.

 

[Zippy]

I have 5 lessons. I couldn't get the idea of the arms squeezin together. It just made me hit the ball like a rididulous buffoon. Im not very good dude at getting all this stuff, can anyone explain what I did wrong?

 

[birdie_man]

I've had this one on my mind for a while.

Do you guys think that Hogan sets up with more weight on his left side? (in certain sequences anyway).

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That's the easiest way for me to get that look Hogan has..."sitting on the left leg." And doing that points your right knee at the target at Address too.

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There's a few ways to do it I think.

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Maybe he does it cause he can (because his clubface is open enough).

Brian? Anyone?

 

[hue]

quote:Originally posted by Zippy

I have 5 lessons. I couldn't get the idea of the arms squeezin together. It just made me hit the ball like a rididulous buffoon. Im not very good dude at getting all this stuff, can anyone explain what I did wrong?

Hogan never had his arms squeezed together in his real swing. What he said he did is not what did in his swing.

 

[Erik_K]

quote:Originally posted by hue

quote:Originally posted by Zippy

I have 5 lessons. I couldn't get the idea of the arms squeezin together. It just made me hit the ball like a rididulous buffoon. Im not very good dude at getting all this stuff, can anyone explain what I did wrong?

Hogan never had his arms squeezed together in his real swing. What he said he did is not what did in his swing.

Yeah. When I had a lesson from Lynn Blake last summer were discussing the wedges and he showed me pictures of Hogan at address. His arms were not 'wrapped' or squeezed together.

 

[Zippy]

Wouldnt Ben Hogan the great ball hitter that he was must a been trying to tell us something. If he was good as he was meant to be then surely he must be sayin something good to do.

 

[MizunoJoe]

quote:Originally posted by Zippy

Wouldnt Ben Hogan the great ball hitter that he was must a been trying to tell us something. If he was good as he was meant to be then surely he must be sayin something good to do.

Hogan was trying to find some way to get the average reader to feel the right arm staying underneath the left arm, and dragging the club underneath the arms on the downswing. The image of tying the arms together, together with arching the left wrist, helps make this happen.

Mark O'Meara once asked Hogan if the club should approach the ball from "underneath" the arms, and Hogan replied, "Where the hell else could the club be?"

 

[vandal]

I also think maybe Hogan was trying to emphasize how the arms need to work together as a unit and not flying around on their own.

 

[Zippy]

"I also think maybe Hogan was trying to emphasize how the arms need to work together as a unit and not flying around on their own."

This sounds good vandal can you say more?

 

[tourdeep]

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

I've had this one on my mind for a while.

Do you guys think that Hogan sets up with more weight on his left side? (in certain sequences anyway).

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That's the easiest way for me to get that look Hogan has..."sitting on the left leg." And doing that points your right knee at the target at Address too.

...

There's a few ways to do it I think.

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Maybe he does it cause he can (because his clubface is open enough).

Brian? Anyone?

I think he does. That is, his weight appears to be more evenly distributed. How much more on the front, dunno...

Months ago, my weight distribution changed, for all clubs. Mentally, I am asking for 50/50, physically, I think it's happening. With this, more feel has gone to the inside of both left and right feet. Left knee used to go behind the ball. Now, more or less at the ball. If the low side intent is for balance, why go with excessive (to each his own) weight transfer. I find this helps with a smoother pivot.

Power comes from above...!

 

[EdZ]

Elbows the same distance apart and pointed down

very helpful in getting on plane

for a swinger, there is no better aid than the figure 8 strap

 

[tourdeep]

Power comes from above...!

does it?