Ben Hogan !!!

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the free hip turn, well yes it is but only to the extent allowed ty the restrictive setup of right knee position and its angle retention.

As Hogan gracefully matured, his swing adjusted accordingly, and throw in the accident... so, another area for exactness is what swing era we're talking about.

Hogan says it was best pre-accident, the 40's. The others say it was post. Brian agrees with Ben...

Now, I tried to address this issue b4, but...!
 
golfbulldog

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"Power Golf" his book published in 1947 or 48...

Get one of the old editions with photos and not line drawings ( not as good as the 5 lessons drawings) but photos are wonderful...see my avatar!
 
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I just had a look at those swings from PG. You know what I really want to know? How did he ever figure out that swing? I did hear a quote from Hogan saying, "If I had had video, I'd have really killed 'em." Probably.

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Hogan Pictures from the 40's

So this (Power Golf time period)was apparently when he was hitting the hooks. The thing about the Hawk that blows me away is that even if Woods has more majors than everyone at the end of the day, the fact Hogan survived, let alone won 2 Major golf championships after that accident, is totally unbelievable.....[/QUOTE]

ColtsFan,

This lack of factual knowledge of Mr. Hogan's real history, is not your fault. Lots of folks have no idea about the man, or his history.

As for these photos:

They were taken in 1948 at Augusta National, and in the three years which ended in 1948, Ben Hogan won 30 tournaments.

30 tournaments

He later had "the accident" and made a well-publicized swing "change."

He won tournaments and Majors after the "wreck," but in his own words, NEVER hit it as well as he did before (like in these photos).

He played well and some say better, but he thought he scored and mangaged his game better.

Nonetheless, this sequence of Mr. Hogan that I have posted below, along with the signiture he signed my Hogan 5 Lessons book with, is for lots of great teachers, the best ever.

Enjoy!

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Brian,

But he's got the club stuck behind him. I don't know how you can say that swing was any good! Ha!

John Dunigan
 
self-mastery

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golfbulldog said:
"Power Golf" his book published in 1947 or 48...

Get one of the old editions with photos and not line drawings ( not as good as the 5 lessons drawings) but photos are wonderful...see my avatar!
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I've only seen/read the one with the line drawings. I'm doubtful that anyone is willing to give up their copy of the older edition.


5th frame is terminal!
 
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For Brian.

I read in one of Hogan's biography [ I think it was HOGAN by sampson ], along with other places, that Hogan struck the ball much better in the 50's, but was hampered by his putting. Did he tell you this, or is it in print somewhere?
 
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I note that Jim Hardy uses similar photos of Ben Hogan to claim that Hogan was a prototypical one-planer golfer. The one plane release action is demonstrated by the fact that Hogan kept his right elbow alongside his right hip at impact, and the right hip is open at impact. Did Hogan have the same one-plane release action when using a driver, or did his right elbow slide in front of the right hip just prior to impact?

Jeff.
 
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JeffMann said:
I note that Jim Hardy uses similar photos of Ben Hogan to claim that Hogan was a prototypical one-planer golfer. The one plane release action is demonstrated by the fact that Hogan kept his right elbow alongside his right hip at impact, and the right hip is open at impact. Did Hogan have the same one-plane release action when using a driver, or did his right elbow slide in front of the right hip just prior to impact?

Jeff.
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In picture 14 it looks like his right elbow is touching the front of his right hip.
 
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The right elbow may seem to be in front of the right hip, but note that the right hip has rotated to an open position and the right elbow remains in contact with the right hip at impact. In a two plane release, the right elbow slides past the front of the right hip, which is less open at impact.

I want to know if Hogan had two different right elbow release phenomena in the late stage of his career - one plane release for mid/short irons, and two plane release for a driver?

Jeff.
 
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Came across these two Hogan quotes at the Jules Alexander Photography site where there are also great pics of Mr. Hogan. The 1st is interesting in light of BM's recent audio clip about the grip.



Hogan claimed the left hand had two functions. First, to hold on and second not to break down. "you don't hook a ball because you have a strong right hand, you hook it because you have a weak left hand."

In one of his books Hogan said "the strongest man couldn't put his hand between my right arm and hip on the downswing."
 
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Six majots after the accident. His major record is:
• Masters: 1951, 1953
• U.S. Open: 1948, 1950, 1951, 1953
• British Open: 1953
• PGA Championship: 1946, 1948

But I agree with Brian, look at the swing in Power Golf.....
 
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