Bent right wrist at impact ?

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Brian, I know one of the desired imperatives is a bent right wrist at impact. In viewing pictures of Vijay, he seems to have his right wrist in an arched position at impact, completely opposite of the desired position. Theres a good picture of this in last months golf digest article with Vijay.Whats your opinion on why he is doing this? How can he acheive such good results with this move?
 

matt

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Vijay makes an odd move indeed.

The crucial point in your post - a FLAT LEFT WRIST is the imperative, not a bent right wrist. Now normally these go hand in hand. That is, when you have a flat left wrist your right wrist is bent, and vice versa. Vijay kind of lets his right hand come off the club and his right wrist flattens a little. But his left wrist is STILL FLAT. And that's all the matters.

Check it out here: http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/80095/1/2785334

Sure his right wrist is flattening...but his left wrist is holding steady and not bending!
 
Its an anti - left move. A lot of guys out there are a lot more concerned about controlling their bad tendencies, than having the most perfectly asthetic swing. Even at that level, staying away from the big number is so, so important.
 
VJ's move would probably not work well for HITTING. He is a SWINGER, and his #3 pressure point is still intact. Couples, also does something similar. Their left wrists are flat at impact.

Interestingly...I think Colin Montgomery has one of the best looking impact conditions.
 

holenone

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quote:Originally posted by matt

Vijay makes an odd move indeed.

The crucial point in your post - a FLAT LEFT WRIST is the imperative, not a bent right wrist. Now normally these go hand in hand. That is, when you have a flat left wrist your right wrist is bent, and vice versa. Vijay kind of lets his right hand come off the club and his right wrist flattens a little. But his left wrist is STILL FLAT. And that's all the matters.

Check it out here: http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/80095/1/2785334

Sure his right wrist is flattening...but his left wrist is holding steady and not bending!

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Exactly right, Matt. The First Imperative is the Flat Left Wrist. The Sweetspot is never permitted to pass the Hands during the Impact Interval. It is the Number One Alignment in G.O.L.F., and nobody does it better than Vijay.

The Second Imperative is the Clubhead Lag Pressure Point. A glance at any of Vijay's Impact photos will prove that, despite his unusual Flat Right Wrist alignment, the #3 Pressure Point (Right Forefinger) is dead behind the Shaft and definitely doing its job. Importantly, it is getting a lot of support from its most important ally...the On Plane Right Forearm.

Finally, the Third Imperative is Tracing the Straight Plane Line. This conscious direction of the On Plane Clubhead Lag Pressure through Impact is the responsibility of the #3 Pressure Point and Right Forearm. You can rest assured that Vijay is taking care of business here because he spends hours every week -- even at his level -- making that happen. Homer Kelley called the Inclined Plane the "heart and soul of the Golf Swing." And this last Imperative -- maintaining its Straight Line Baseline through Impact -- is what Vijay's famous practice routine is all about.

You want to 'be like Mike?' Then do what 'Mike' does: Establish the Plane Line by putting two shafts on the ground a few inches apart and aligned to the Target. Then stick another in the ground behind you to establish the Plane Angle. Finally, position a water bottle just in front and to the right of the Ball (which is located between the two shafts on the ground). This is your visual 'Gateway to Golfing Perfection' through which the Arc of Approach -- the curved path of the Clubhead Blur -- must pass. Your mission is to swing Through the Ball -- and through this 'mine field' -- without disturbing any of the deliberately placed obstructions.

Do that a couple of times a week for a few weeks and watch those wayward shots 'get religion!'
 
quote:Originally posted by holenone

quote:Originally posted by matt

Vijay makes an odd move indeed.

The crucial point in your post - a FLAT LEFT WRIST is the imperative, not a bent right wrist. Now normally these go hand in hand. That is, when you have a flat left wrist your right wrist is bent, and vice versa. Vijay kind of lets his right hand come off the club and his right wrist flattens a little. But his left wrist is STILL FLAT. And that's all the matters.

Check it out here: http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/80095/1/2785334

Sure his right wrist is flattening...but his left wrist is holding steady and not bending!

[Bold by Holenone/Yoda.]

Exactly right, Matt. The First Imperative is the Flat Left Wrist. The Sweetspot is never permitted to pass the Hands during the Impact Interval. It is the Number One Alignment in G.O.L.F., and nobody does it better than Vijay.

The Second Imperative is the Clubhead Lag Pressure Point. A glance at any of Vijay's Impact photos will prove that, despite his unusual Flat Right Wrist alignment, the #3 Pressure Point (Right Forefinger) is dead behind the Shaft and definitely doing its job. Importantly, it is getting a lot of support from its most important ally...the On Plane Right Forearm.

Finally, the Third Imperative is Tracing the Straight Plane Line. This conscious direction of the On Plane Clubhead Lag Pressure through Impact is the responsibility of the #3 Pressure Point and Right Forearm. You can rest assured that Vijay is taking care of business here because he spends hours every week -- even at his level -- making that happen. Homer Kelley called the Inclined Plane the "heart and soul of the Golf Swing." And this last Imperative -- maintaining its Straight Line Baseline through Impact -- is what Vijay's famous practice routine is all about.

You want to 'be like Mike?' Then do what 'Mike' does: Establish the Plane Line by putting two shafts on the ground a few inches apart and aligned to the Target. Then stick another in the ground behind you to establish the Plane Angle. Finally, position a water bottle just in front and to the right of the Ball (which is located between the two shafts on the ground). This is your visual 'Gateway to Golfing Perfection' through which the Arc of Approach -- the curved path of the Clubhead Blur -- must pass. Your mission is to swing Through the Ball -- and through this 'mine field' -- without disturbing any of the deliberately placed obstructions.

Do that a couple of times a week for a few weeks and watch those wayward shots 'get religion!'

What is the role of the shaft placed behind you? i.e., do you swing above or below it on the backswing and do you swing above or below it on the forward swing? Thanks.
 
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Teh shaft placed behind is representing the plane angle. You could swing above or below based on your tendencies. If I remember, Vijay would sometimes come underneath his 'ideal' plane angle coming down, thus he would swing a bit above the shaft behind him coming into the ball.

For those who may come over the top, swinging underneath may be a bit better...but with anything, make sure it is not overdone. Keep monitoring to make sure you are coming as close to the shaft as possible, without hitting it. As Vijay is a bit more precise than some of us, he most likely doesn't worry to much about hitting it...if you want a little 'security', go the Target, Wal-Mart or any pool store. They sell those multi-colored 'noodles' for floating in the pool (already has a whole running lenthwise). Take your shaft and run it though the 'noodle', thus, if you hit it, its your clubhead hitting foam vs your clubhead hitting a metal shaft.

FL-John
 
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