Best drills to correct In - to - Out swing path?

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Every so often I will swing out to the right on follow through, creating either a high hook, or straight push to the right. My takeaway is usually spot on according to video analysis. Have waded through a variety of posts. Plane board and Butch Harmon laser seem to be most popular. I'm favoring the laser at this point for practicality/ease of transport.

Go for it? Or waste of time? Thanks.
 
Save yourself some money. Get a small Maglight flashlight, or a I call it "laglight". Find a straight seem in the carpet or the base board along the floor. Put the flashlight in your right hand(specifically the light should emit from the #3 pressure point, You right index finger) if you are a right handed golfer. Trace with your right index finger along the baseboard or seem (base of your plane line). The light should not leave the straight line on the ground until it gets parallel (horitonzal) to the ground.
When working above horizonal, simply flip the flashlight arround or get another one and tape it end to end with the first one.
As Homer says, " Whenever the clubshaft is parallel to the ground it must also be parallel to the base line of the inclined plane which is usually the line of flight. Otherwise, the end of the club closest to the ground must be pointing at the base line of the inclined plane or extensions of that line, even if they must be extended to the horizon. Remember, a flat plane has a straight baseline. A circle is two demensional and can lie on a flat plane. If the plane line loses it straightness the clubhead orbit becomes three demensional and precision vanishes."
 
Get a long used flourescent bulb and put it 2 inches outside the ball to target line, pointing just left of the targetline, mimicking the slight outside-in path of a pull-fader. If you swing in-to-out, you losed your eyesight. You must put something on the line you don't want to lose.
 

EdZ

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How is your ball position? Do you feel in balance, arms hanging at setup? Shoulder line matching clubface direction?
 
I bought two maglight minilights that go on your key chain. They hold one AAA battery. I took a spare 5 iron and cut a hole in the butt end of the grip and poked one light down the hole about an inch. Took the other light and duct taped it to the underneath side of the shaft just below the grip. With maglights you can adjust the light to a beam or a flood light. I stand in my living room with the lights off and a couple of clubs laying on my target line. Turn the lights on to spot light and track both lights down the target line. I had seen video of my swing and could plainly see that I was taking the club back inside the line too quickly, but I could never get the 'feel' for keeping it on plane until I scabbed this tool together. The lights cost me about $10 total. Of course when I do the drill with the lights out, my wife gives me the typical roll eyes look.
 
I can get a new Butch Harmon laser system for ~$45-50 (ebay), which is roughly same price of GTA shipped. Am I at a disadvantage by going with Harmon over GTA (price taken out of equation)? I've done the flashlight trick in the past, but visualization was a little tough during the day.

Thanks again. You guys are great.
 

EdZ

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Lasers are good, as are flashlights, and there really isn't any advantage of one over the other. I would encourage you to use a 'strap' around the elbows when using a laser - the combination is quite effective. Also, do 'split grip' drills when using the laser/strap combo (just separate the hands with the rigt down near the lower end of the grip)

This will give you the right feel of the 'inside' - and allow you to feel the proper right arm extention through the shot, in balance
 

Burner

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Lasers are not the answer to your problem; which is in FINISHING the swing and not the approach to the ball.

An IN to OUT approach is not a bad thing - but not coming back to IN as you pass through impact is.

My guess is that you are hitting AT the ball and not THROUGH it, so try a little "front end therapy".

Adopt your stance and simply swing forward to a full finish. Repeat until it becomes second nature to FULLY FINISH all of your shots.
 
quote:Originally posted by Burner

Lasers are not the answer to your problem; which is in FINISHING the swing and not the approach to the ball.

An IN to OUT approach is not a bad thing - but not coming back to IN as you pass through impact is.

My guess is that you are hitting AT the ball and not THROUGH it, so try a little "front end therapy".

Adopt your stance and simply swing forward to a full finish. Repeat until it becomes second nature to FULLY FINISH all of your shots.

I bought those Lasers last year and I can say, yes they are cheaper. Lasers are a very bad training aid. It produces position golf, tracing the laser along the line is like signing a check with a pen stuck in your shoulder. If you learn to get your hands down deep in front of you, pivot into the ball and let it release your hands, which is of course holding the club,finish the pivot and swivel bring the club inside and up. Why would you ever need a laser to do that?
 
Burner ... you hit it on the nail wrt to not coming back to IN after impact. Can expand on what you said:

"Adopt your stance and simply swing forward to a full finish."

Don't quite understand this...you mean swing more "left" after impact?

Should I open my stance a bit more so to allow for a more comfortable left (IN) swing path? I'm having a hard time adjusting to the new after impact path (club face is not squaring up etc). I don't have access to video all too often, so I'm looking for a method that will allow me see if I'm on plane or not. Laser is def no good then?

Thanks.
 
You have recommendation for cheap digital camcorder (assume this is what you meant by camera)? I'm on relative tight budget.
 
Syprik:

I have a Canon Powershot A70, it is a still digital camera, but comes with a 30 second movie mode. It uses a resolution of 640x480 at 15 fps for movies. So whilst no where near digi video cam quality, it still does the job.
 
Syprik-I bought a Cannon ZR10 on Ebay for $150. Great mini DV camcorder. I had heard they werent durable but I managed to knock mine off my computer desk while capturing video, and also had the wind blow it over while it sat on a tripod at the driving range and it did no damage at all. It has an adjustable shutter speed so you can capture a golf swing with no problems at all. You will need an IEEE card and a firewire to transfer the video from the camera to the computer. I got one of those with the cable and some software on Ebay for $15.
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by Syprik

Burner ... you hit it on the nail wrt to not coming back to IN after impact. Can expand on what you said:

"Adopt your stance and simply swing forward to a full finish."

Don't quite understand this...you mean swing more "left" after impact?

Should I open my stance a bit more so to allow for a more comfortable left (IN) swing path? I'm having a hard time adjusting to the new after impact path (club face is not squaring up etc). I don't have access to video all too often, so I'm looking for a method that will allow me see if I'm on plane or not. Laser is def no good then?

Thanks.

No real need to open the stance, but do open your lead foot - that will really help you come 'through' the shot, and get to a full balanced finish (experiment, somewhere around 20-45 degrees open with the lead foot)
 

Brian Manzella

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HIT DRIVERS OFF OF THE GROUND.

BUILD A TOWEL PLANE BOARD.

HIT INSIDE-OUT CUT SHOTS...THEN ADD SWING MORE LEFT.

GET YOUR LEFT THUM UNDER THE CLUB AT THE TOP AND AT THE FINISH...try to hit it straight then.
 

Burner

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quote:Originally posted by Syprik

Burner ... you hit it on the nail wrt to not coming back to IN after impact. Can expand on what you said:

"Adopt your stance and simply swing forward to a full finish."

Don't quite understand this...you mean swing more "left" after impact?

Should I open my stance a bit more so to allow for a more comfortable left (IN) swing path? I'm having a hard time adjusting to the new after impact path (club face is not squaring up etc). I don't have access to video all too often, so I'm looking for a method that will allow me see if I'm on plane or not. Laser is def no good then?

Thanks.

What I am suggesting is that you practise left after impact front end only swinging - that is from your address position to your fully finished position. You don't need a ball and you do not make a backswing. Just swing forwards, up and around your left shoulder.

Once you get the feeling going then take little backswings and go from there to a full finishing position. Gradually work up to a full swing and make sure that you finish with your right shoulder pointing at the target if you are flexible enough to get around that far.

Do a full practise swing before you make any shot on the course just to remind yourself to go right through to a full finish.
 

EdZ

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GET YOUR LEFT THUM UNDER THE CLUB AT THE TOP AND AT THE FINISH

Agreed - one of Hogan's secrets

if you drill holding the club only in the last three fingers of the left hand, thumb and index finger off, but with the thumb basically near its normal position, you can slowly swing the club back and through, and feel it 'bounce' onto the thumb at the top and finish - use a narrow arc, just letting the club/hand swing up near the shoulders on both sides of the ball, allowing rotation

you will feel the thumb under the shaft on both sides of the swing

and 'up the rim' especially from post impact/hip high to finish
 
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