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I don't like the feel of taking it away with just my right forearm...and it doesn't seem to work as well for me.

...But I can understand the reason for doing so...with how it relates to starting the club back on plane...and how something HAS TO lift eventually (or else the club just would go around you).

How bout takin it away with both hands? Is that still RFP?

-Paul
 
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6bee1dee

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It is very hard to pull the club away with just the right hand from address position. Easier from impact fix or a forward press and pass through adjusted address on the way.

And there is nothing wrong with a nudge from the left to set the swing in motion as long as the right hand and forearm take it over.
 
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6, I was wondering about this. From a swingers mid hands address it's not as smooth of a takeaway. I've incorporated my left hand in the takeaway to help smooth it out. An almost prayer hands sort of, kidna, feeling. That's clear as mud! lol. I hope you know what I mean. Jacobs teaches you to use your core to take the club back on his dvd. That works as well.
 
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Add extensor action (6-B-1-D) and see whether you prefer it. RFP is not taking it away with two arms and "dragging the pivot". That is STT. They are mutually exclusive. You cannot RFP and STT at the same time. It is like trying to inhale and exhale at once.

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

I don't like the feel of taking it away with just my right forearm...and it doesn't seem to work as well for me.

...But I can understand the reason for doing so...with how it relates to starting the club back on plane...and how something HAS TO lift eventually (or else the club just would go around you).

How bout takin it away with both hands? Is that still RFP?

-Paul
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6bee1dee

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quote:Originally posted by comdpa

Add extensor action (6-B-1-D) and see whether you prefer it. RFP is not taking it away with two arms and "dragging the pivot". That is STT. They are mutually exclusive. You cannot RFP and STT at the same time. It is like trying to inhale and exhale at once.
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Homer believed that a shoulder take-away was a pivot control action. I agree. It isn’t wrong. STT is taught by everyone and the pros use it all the time. But STT adds yet another compensation to the stroke.

I do like the use of the RFT ever since Yoda taught it last summer. It comes and goes, I work on it. It is closer to a true uncompensated circle than a long and low push away of the left shoulder. And the circle rules the stroke and IMPACT. Currently I like to feel as if I am pulling pp3 out of the ball to the top.


Comdpa- The great jazz saxophone musician Rahsaan Roland Kirk did inhale and exhale at the same time. LOL. check him out.
 
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quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

quote:Originally posted by comdpa

Add extensor action (6-B-1-D) and see whether you prefer it. RFP is not taking it away with two arms and "dragging the pivot". That is STT. They are mutually exclusive. You cannot RFP and STT at the same time. It is like trying to inhale and exhale at once.
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Homer believed that a shoulder take-away was a pivot control action. I agree. It isn’t wrong. STT is taught by everyone and the pros use it all the time. But STT adds yet another compensation to the stroke.

I do like the use of the RFT ever since Yoda taught it last summer. It comes and goes, I work on it. It is closer to a true uncompensated circle than a long and low push away of the left shoulder. And the circle rules the stroke and IMPACT. Currently I like to feel as if I am pulling pp3 out of the ball to the top.


Comdpa- The great jazz saxophone musician Rahsaan Roland Kirk did inhale and exhale at the same time. LOL. check him out.
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Geez, is that so...? Man I would like to learn that trick...its gonna be a great party trick with a beer bottle...haha
 
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6bee1dee

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RR Kirk could hold a single note for hours on end. He learned an old art of breathing in through the nose and exhaling through the mouth- the mouthpiece of the instrument. He was magic. He used to play the sax and a 'hooter' with his nose at the same time.
And you thought breathing was just for kids, silly rabbit.
 
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Hey everybody! I'm new to this site and the Golf Machine. I am in the process of totally overhauling my swing. From starting the takeaway with my left arm to pulling with my right. I've also always struggled with my pivot. Most of the time I have very little pivot and my weight stays most likely in the center of my stance. I can't get the club back very far when I do this...only 3/4 looking.

Before reading this forum, I was trying to turn my naval and put more weight in my right foot without swaying. In this manor I am able to get the club and my right shoulder further back. Then I read about the right arm pulling the club back and I feel like I'm not turning like I used to do.

Anyway, I tell you guys this to ask about RFP, STT, pp3? What do they mean? What do they stand for? Could you guys educate me on this? I believe my pivot motion, takeway, and backswing motions are crucial for my to apply the concepts I am learning in the Flipper video and the 1-4 shorts. I might be wrong, so if so, feel free to correct my thinking..Brian & all TGM posters.

Thanks Guys,

Trane
 
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Trane

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OK, I feel kindav stupid. Must of fell asleep last night when I watched videos 1-4. RFT = Right forearm takeawy & STT = Shoulder turn takeaway. Great video. But what is pp3?

BTW I wasn't doing the RFT right either because I was just using the RFA to pull back about a foot to start the backswing. It appears the correct way is to pull it up the plane until you reached one's maximum back swing. The amount of shoulder turn, hip turn, and knees bending ( left knee for Righthanded golfer) will depend on the body type & how limber your are...did I get it right?

TY

Trane
 
birdie_man

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It's basically where your right trigger finger touches the grip- if you look at the underside of your index finger, it has 3 little sections...PP3 is the one at the bottom of the finger (closest to the palm).
 
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Trane,

The cheapest place I found was on the thegolfingmachine.com website. I think it was around $27 and got to my house in a couple days. The book is very dry reading, but has a lot of interesting information that will clarify a lot of what is said on this Forum.
 
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