Brian....Lie Angle Question

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tallathlete

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I don't believe in using a lie board to check lie angles. I won't get into why...but suffice it to say I don't trust it. That being said, what do you consider to be the gold standard for nailing the proper lie angle for irons? What method do you think is the end all and be all?
 
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Brian i know you are a big fan of Cool Clubs what do they use to determine lie angles. I know some club fitters that draw a straight line on the ball and see where the mark is on the face. I believe there is a post somewhere on here about that, you might want to do a search for it tallathlete
 
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If I had to, I would use some impact tape and try to get a rough estimate of the lie angles for you. Then I would draw straight vertical line on the ball and use impact tape to fine tune the lie angles. You have to account for shaft droop, unless you spine and flow the shafts, which is pricey. So, let's say you feel best playing at 1* upright. I'd get the clubs bent 1* upright and then use the line test and your 4-iron may need to be 2* upright, your 5-iron may need to be standard, your 6-iron may need to be kept at 1* upright, etc.

That being said, IMO a lot of this depends on what you are trying to do with your golf swing. If you're trying to flatten out your downswing and go from a downswing plane on the TSP to a downswing plane on the elbow plane, you need to change your lie angles because if they are kept upright, you'll just keep coming down on the more upright TSP.

I agree with lie boards. They're garbage.







3JACK
 
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Brian Manzella

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The only way to do it right is to do it with a very straight line, lined up with a laser.

And the line has to be drawn with a good, fine lie, sharpie type pen.

Ball is GONE PECAN before club hits the lie board.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
The only way to do it right is to do it with a very straight line, lined up with a laser.

And the line has to be drawn with a good, fine lie, sharpie type pen.

Ball is GONE PECAN before club hits the lie board.
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Hey Brian....I can use a device to mark a dead straight line on the ball with a fine sharpie. I can hit off of the simulated grass....not a mat...but the astroturf type surface at driving ranges. It lets the clubhead continue down and thru the shot after ball is long gone. I know that surface will be level as opposed to actual grass. The only question is how can I be sure the ball...when marked....has the line set up on the turf in a dead vertical position?
 
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welshdentist

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I think if you shine the laser down the line, with a laser like a spirit level laser that projects a straight line not a dot, then you can set the ball correctly.
 
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tallathlete

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westy said:
look with your eyes. they are really cool things. a pattern always emerges.
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Yep..you are right. I should've just eyeballed it. Seeing that the average PGA Tour player lines up a dead straight putt 5-6 inches left of the hole from only 6 feet...we can surely trust our eyes can't we? I suppose that if the world's best putters can't accurately line up 6 foot putts....then how can I eyeball a straight line to plus or minus 1 degree? When people like you give replies like yours....I know they are either fools or morons. That's the pattern that always emerges.
 
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Personally, Ringer...I'd rather just get some impact tape rather than use a lie board. I wish I could find this Web page, but there was one written by a scientist that showed that lie boards incorrectly tell golfers to get more upright lie angles than they really need. I only read it once and didn't favorite it. It was one of those independent research web pages with the weird URL's, but it was good stuff and it made sense becasue it seems like everybody I've ever encountered who used a lie board wound up having to get their irons more upright.







3JACK
 
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