Brian's Twistaway??

[Tball88]

Brian, or anybody else on here for that matter, since most of you know way more than I do.

After watching the Schaffaer video I decided to attempt some float loading today(poor effort I might add). What happened to me was everthing was high fade to the right, just didn't feel like I could get the face squared up.

I quickly remembered my old days when I would use Brian's twistaway motion to correct a right ball flight and quickly I started banging drives pretty far and straight.

Question I have is does the twist away(closed club face at the top) work better for angled hinging. I struggle with a horizontal hinge and just wondered if this type of motion is more approriate for angled hinging versus horizontal hinging?

 

[Brian Manzella]

The "twistaway" may produce a less OPEN clubface at the top, but NEVER a closed one.

Huh?

At the top of the swing, let's say of Tiger or Jack or Johnny, the clubface is (more-or-less) laying on the plane.

At address it was 'cutting through the plane.'

Therfore, Woods, Nicklaus & Miller, have a 90 degree open clubface at the top.

Got it?

Trevino, and Clude Harmon's clubface, while looking more at the sky at the top, may have been MORE CLOSED than Eldrik, The Golden Bear, and Sears' fashion model, but it was STILL OPEN to the plane.

See?

Now, most hackers and slicers, and even some hookers, have the clubface in the TOE DOWN position at the the top, which is not the only open clubface here, just one that is MORE OPEN than Erkel, Ohio Fats, and Mr."he missed that putt left becuase he either chocked or broke doen his left wrist."

The twistaway is NOT JUST A BACKSWING deal for slicers, but a whole swing feel and do.

It CAN be a GREAT backswing thought for a hitter, though, and some of my hitters use it that way.

 

[Tball88]

Ok Brian, I'm going to have to ponder this one a while.

When I'm leaking the ball right, I'm typically 90 degrees open to the plan position at the top. If I get in a slightly more closed position, let's say 65-70 degrees open to the plane I have a tendency to strike the ball much better. I believe I'm executing an angled hinge swinging motion. I don't really try to roll my arm, just try to drive that left arm down and through, typical ball flight is usually a slight fade. Unless I break down the right wrist and get a snap hook.
Previous to your posting I would have considered myself to be in a closed position at the top, but I believe I understand your "less open" theory.

I know a lost of players have played with a "less open" clubface at the top, including Trevino, Harmon, Inkster, and Duval in his prime.

 

[mandrin]

quote:Originally posted by brianman

The twistaway is NOT JUST A BACKSWING deal for slicers, but a whole swing feel and do.

Are you perhaps trying to revive ‘The Square-to-Square Golf Swing’ with your twistaway motion?

I agree that this subtle motion is much more than words can express. Surprisingly, one particular strong feeling I associate with it is that of a very acute awareness of a plane, both ways, on which I am swinging the club.

These small refined motions, or intentions of motion, can unlock or trigger a whole distinct golf swing, at least feel wise. Hogan’s secret is perhaps another good example. But they can be very individual and not useful for everyone.

 

[tongzilla]

I think for conversational purposes, the Clubface lying On Plane / leading edge On Plane / Flat Left Wrist On Plane = 'Square'.

I know it's actually 90 deg Open (which is correct)...but 'Square' provides a good reference.

 

[tongzilla]

quote:Originally posted by Tball88

Brian, or anybody else on here for that matter, since most of you know way more than I do.

After watching the Schaffaer video I decided to attempt some float loading today(poor effort I might add). What happened to me was everthing was high fade to the right, just didn't feel like I could get the face squared up.

I quickly remembered my old days when I would use Brian's twistaway motion to correct a right ball flight and quickly I started banging drives pretty far and straight.

Question I have is does the twist away(closed club face at the top) work better for angled hinging. I struggle with a horizontal hinge and just wondered if this type of motion is more approriate for angled hinging versus horizontal hinging?

Stop trying to Float Load!

You're not going to... are you? LOL...

Use the Lagging Clubhead Takeaway which helps A LOT.

 

[Tball88]

Tongzilla, when you talk about a lagging clubhead takeaway are you referring to taking the grip back first?

 

[tongzilla]

quote:Originally posted by Tball88

Tongzilla, when you talk about a lagging clubhead takeaway are you referring to taking the grip back first?

Yes, leaving the Clubhead lagging behind, due to inertia or mass of Clubhead resisting to go back, not because of independent wrist action.

Check out my action for an example:
http://media.putfile.com/LeoDriver