Can I just dejunken everything that I have ever learned?
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Brian Manzella
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I'll have what she's having....
One of the best questions ever on this or any other forum.
The answer is:
YES!
One of the best questions ever on this or any other forum.
The answer is:
YES!
Matt Bryda
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Double post alert!
This has to be a huge deal, seriously!
Matt
This has to be a huge deal, seriously!
Matt
jenhaoyen
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I mean, I was teaching my golf range buddy Back and Forth swing today.
I was like hey man, forget about all the mechanics stuff, just do this.
Good thing about B&F swing is that it teaches our to have a good symmertry
You can't have a too flat back swing, other wise u would end up swinging so much left and over the top move. A lot tttttttt of good things here.
Shot Limit
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The back and forth drill is the sh*t. Put on some Big Chief and it's even better.
lookingtolearn
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I think the thing is that it can be a little tricky trying to replicate the swing without the "head start" so to speak. I am attempting to do this right now, because when I video my back and forth swings I look VERY orthodox. I believe the key for me is to work on performing the takeaway the same way that I do in the drill. After that, it seems like the back and forth training sort of takes over and rest of the swing is pretty good.
I'm beginning to wonder if the best way to build your own swing (without the help of live lessons from a Manzella Academy instructor) is to do the following:
1. Practice the back and forth drill until you can hit the same spot every time.
2. Video it.
3. Copy the swing.
TROYNYGOLFER
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One thing I found helpful to incorporate what I learn in the back and forth drill is to introduce a couple of waggles with totally relaxed wrists, and to begin the swing with an aggressive step onto the right foot. That tends to make the LCT easier to integrate.
Matt Bryda
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On the bad contact days when I'm struggling with my swing I"ll add a little pre turn of the shoulders before the step on the right foot.
This seems to really help my arms swing speed and the into the ground step pressure of my right foot.
Matt
lookingtolearn
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I get what you're saying and I agree that will help a lot of people. However, I was referring to what the club was doing. For me, focusing on a LCT gives too much "in" during the takeaway. I need much more up for my swing.
Okay now I get it. Of course there's a chapter in SD called "back and forth."
I do see the problem getting it started-- it's easy if you push the clubhead forward, then begin the motion. Not so easy if you are starting from a static address position.
Also, one of my issues has been too much sway away from target on the backswing. I see SO many mid-hi-cappers who do the "back" but can't do the "forth" when they are looking at an actual ball. I also get stuck on the back foot-- cost me 3 strokes yesterday, with fat contact.
How would you utilize "back/forth" if your problem is getting stuck on the "back?"
I do see the problem getting it started-- it's easy if you push the clubhead forward, then begin the motion. Not so easy if you are starting from a static address position.
Also, one of my issues has been too much sway away from target on the backswing. I see SO many mid-hi-cappers who do the "back" but can't do the "forth" when they are looking at an actual ball. I also get stuck on the back foot-- cost me 3 strokes yesterday, with fat contact.
How would you utilize "back/forth" if your problem is getting stuck on the "back?"
curtisj76
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I hit a couple of fat shots yesterday as well. Make sure when you step on the right you then STEP ON THE LEFT.
BFF-- Back and Forth Forever.
Worked with this a bit today. 3 or 4 back/forth swishes, and I have established the tempo for the swing. It's a slower tempo than what I get into for my poor swings. This extra "baDUMM, baDUMM" rhythm makes it easier to get onto my left side when I do have a ball in front of me. I'm 6'2" with a longish torso, and my particular biological geometry simply requires more time to shift back and forth than I want to give it, in my seething desire to get back to the ball and kill it.
So thanks for reminding me of this move! I find the rest of soft draw to be nervously close to my old flip, so I'm hanging on to the pressure point under my right arm, and will also wait to bring the "toss" in.
Worked with this a bit today. 3 or 4 back/forth swishes, and I have established the tempo for the swing. It's a slower tempo than what I get into for my poor swings. This extra "baDUMM, baDUMM" rhythm makes it easier to get onto my left side when I do have a ball in front of me. I'm 6'2" with a longish torso, and my particular biological geometry simply requires more time to shift back and forth than I want to give it, in my seething desire to get back to the ball and kill it.
So thanks for reminding me of this move! I find the rest of soft draw to be nervously close to my old flip, so I'm hanging on to the pressure point under my right arm, and will also wait to bring the "toss" in.
I'm curious to see video of your swing. Can you get some?
birdie_man
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I used to work at a range (dome)...I have never hit it more solid than on the range with rental clubs...
I would just do the back and fourth drill hitting balls to the far wall so the other guy could pick em up all in one pass with the cart. (we used either hockey sticks or golf clubs)
I was very surprised at how well I could hit em. And I mean it...shot after shot back and fourth...solid shot after solid shot. Probably hit 25-40 balls. They were all seemingly pretty straight though it's hard to know as it was into a dome and at a closer range than usual. (maybe 50 yards)
For sure though I have never hit 5 iron shots more solid than that. AS solid but it was cool doing it this way...esp. considering the lie.
(not good for the joints though as it basically was off concrete with a thin green carpet over it)
Dead solid contact and a strong medium trajectory is what stood out to me.
My guess is I was moving more over/onto my right foot and left foot as I went back and fourth...
Almost no awareness of my hands...just was turning my left shoulder as far as I could...and staying loose...
Consistent rhythm...
I think I ended up full rolling it in the downswing...still not 100% sure.
Outside chance that my grip shifted to stronger without me knowing about it.
It's one of a handful of times that has stood out to me. Still trying to learn from it.
I would just do the back and fourth drill hitting balls to the far wall so the other guy could pick em up all in one pass with the cart. (we used either hockey sticks or golf clubs)
I was very surprised at how well I could hit em. And I mean it...shot after shot back and fourth...solid shot after solid shot. Probably hit 25-40 balls. They were all seemingly pretty straight though it's hard to know as it was into a dome and at a closer range than usual. (maybe 50 yards)
For sure though I have never hit 5 iron shots more solid than that. AS solid but it was cool doing it this way...esp. considering the lie.
(not good for the joints though as it basically was off concrete with a thin green carpet over it)
Dead solid contact and a strong medium trajectory is what stood out to me.
My guess is I was moving more over/onto my right foot and left foot as I went back and fourth...
Almost no awareness of my hands...just was turning my left shoulder as far as I could...and staying loose...
Consistent rhythm...
I think I ended up full rolling it in the downswing...still not 100% sure.
Outside chance that my grip shifted to stronger without me knowing about it.
It's one of a handful of times that has stood out to me. Still trying to learn from it.
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