Can someone take a look at these swings?

[tbarbertab]

This is a friend of mine who is working hard on his swing and would like some input. Can you guys help him out?


http://media.putfile.com/6-iron-Face-On-
http://media.putfile.com/6-iron---Down-The-Line


Thanks

 

[Jared Willerson]

He's got a great impact alignment

The white calf socks however must go

 

[birdie_man]

Hehehehe....I didn't notice em or anything....lol....

Just buggin....dude's a trend-setter that's all.

 

[birdie_man]

KK I'll give it a shot.

Let me know what u guys think about the below. (Brian etc.)

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Dude's setup looks pretty good. Stronger than the neutral grip I like but I ain't gonna say u can't play good like that cause u obviously can.

I'd say at least try a more neutral grip tho.

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His chin is up like Scott (not down like Hogan)....not sure it's the biggest deal....maybe Brian can comment.

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From face on his weight looks a little forward and the ball a little back but if he's goin for a lower shot this is ok. For a normal trajectory shot and esp. a higher shot I'd get him to move that ball up a bit.

He'll have to flip it less too.

Make sure when he puts the ball fwd. he keeps his hands at "mid-body."

Not to say u CAN'T play with hands forward....but "mid-body hands" will help him take the club LESS inside and will get him "swingin it" more....if you know what I mean.

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His pivot needs a bit of fixin.....looks to reverse pivot some. Check Brian's "Perfect Pivot" articles. Might be easier to work on it w/o a club first like I think he says.

I really don't think I'd tell this guy to keep a steady head.

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Clubface?

Not sure if u'd want to give this guy the twist-away treatment....but it would help him in a lot of ways if he put some time into it as a drill.

If u look at Impact only u could say it's not that bad....but really he could have more lag. Esp. a better Pivot tho and maybe some twist-away work will even give him that even.

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There's other stuff (plane, clubface control thru the ball, and what he does past the ball) to point out too but I'll stop there.

 

[blehnhard]

OTT

If the camera angle is correct, he is lined up at the trees on the right - gonna make him come OTT (notice steeper shaft angle at start of DS) and break down the left wrist at impact to keep it from going in the trees.

Gotta get him to where he can go down and out towards impact.

Bruce

 

[tbarbertab]

Regarding his armswing, looks to me like he has too much "lift" in the backswing and not enough "drop" in the downswing. Seems to me that his right elbow needs to return closer to his right hip earlier in the downswing.

Of course, I'm not an instructor. He's been to see several instructors but they all seem to tell him something different.

He used to have a bigger outward loop in his downswing but its gotten better.

Here's an old swing from March 2006 :

http://media.putfile.com/7-iron---Face-On---0306

http://media.putfile.com/7-iron---DTL---0306

PS : I've got to talk to him about those socks

 

[tbarbertab]

Hey Brian!

Brian, can you take a look? I know he'd appreciate it...

Thanks

 

[Erik_K]

Belly View:

Let me say, I like this swing.

I am guessing at the top, he doesn't have a FLW, but at impact, his hands lead-which is terrific. That doesn't normally happen by accident and clearly he isn't a flipper.

I would like to see mid-body hands at address (classic address), but it's not critical.

I like it how his tailbone is basically in front of his head on the downswing. Thus, he has some tilt and he maintains that tilt.


Down the line:

He obviously 'sucks' the club inside and normally this can lead to an OTT move-BUT, this doesn't appear to be the case. He's certainly striking the ball from the inside. It looks like he swings down the turned shoulder plane.

His ultra flat backswing, gives him that Hogan-esque cup in his wrist at the top. Overall, it's a really decent move and I wouldn't mess with it a whole lot, other than getting his backswing to be a bit less flat.

 

[golfbulldog]

Imperatives are pretty good - FLW at impact ( although right wrist is losing bend therefore soem leakage) and some lag ( although decreasing )... pretty good and he takes a great divot well past the ball.... all pretty good.

Agree with above about his aim... is he hitting into trees or does he pull the ball?

Plane is the obvious problem i see.

Having seen the earlier videos he had a big Over the top movement which he has obviously started to address ... but it is still there... i reckon he is hitting back of ball at best...not inside aft quadrant.

DTL - weight seems a bit to forward on toes ( Like Birdieman said)

There is alot of "around" early in the backswing and the "up" comes late... seems like he turns his shoulders too early then has to lift hands to TSP... trouble is he keeps going with the armswing ( almost to squared shoulder) as his shoulders start back down... comes into downswing steep...

He has good rotational flexibility and knows what he is doing... needs the right instructor! great looking range as well... pleasure to practice there!

 

[tbarbertab]

Having seen the earlier videos he had a big Over the top movement which he has obviously started to address ... but it is still there... i reckon he is hitting back of ball at best...not inside aft quadrant.

He has good rotational flexibility and knows what he is doing... needs the right instructor! great looking range as well... pleasure to practice there!

He's has been working on that OTT move for a while now. Don't you think he needs more "drop" in his transition?

Range?? Yep, it's a great facility - that's my primary practice range. Spent many weeknights there pounding balls. Same range in my avatar...

 

[golfbulldog]

Lag pressure... once you have sensed it then you can direct it!

Get him to do Brian's lag pressure drill so that he really knows what the feel is... then once that lag sensation is recognised then he can direct it more towards ball/plane line.

Also blend his take away/backsswing a bit more ... get him to have less independent armswing at the top... this is what forces him to get to a steeper plane for the downswing.

But the main thing i think is directing that lag sensation better... awareness of where the hands should be in his downswing.

Maybe...but then I/m not an instructor! so take advice with caution.!

 

[npatel]

My name is Nimish. Tracy had posted my swings on this thread. Thanks to all who took the time and posted their comments. Hi! Brian, could you please take a look at my swings and post your comments.

 

[Mr Inconsistent]

IMO the first thing you should work on is not raising up with your head and your hands at the top of your backswing. Upward head movement on the backswing pretty much guarantees mishits and you'l lose some power doing that to. In the face on vid where your wearing the blue shirt, check out that little branch that's just over your head in the background, the one that 's near parallel to the ground and kind of faint and hard to see. See how your head starts out just below it and then at the top of the backswing it touches it. That shouldn't happen.