thefuture37
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Is it possible to make a proper divot that starts after the ball if you flip? Brian's divot drill from flipper where you make a divot and try to extend it got me thinking about this. Is it possible to cheat that drill anyways?
can you flip and still have a divot after the ball?
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Brian Manzella
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Yes!
You sure can.
You sure can.
matt kluck
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Definite Divots
Absolutely!!
Absolutely!!
matt kluck
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Why?
Why would you want to prevent a divot that isn in your mind proper past impact? Flip or no flip, what is the difference?! I know tendencies and the imperatives dictate otherwise, but many great players have had this anomoly.
Hit it twice forward and have a great short game. "Golf starts from 100 feet and in!" Quote from a tour player who was exempt for 13 years. MK
Why would you want to prevent a divot that isn in your mind proper past impact? Flip or no flip, what is the difference?! I know tendencies and the imperatives dictate otherwise, but many great players have had this anomoly.
Hit it twice forward and have a great short game. "Golf starts from 100 feet and in!" Quote from a tour player who was exempt for 13 years. MK
cmartingolf
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Brian, I'm lost on this one. When you shoot another video answer, would you explain a flip with a proper divot? I'd like to see that. My feeble mind can't seem to get that one. As most of the decent golfers (Scratch to Tour) that I've played with take divots and most Ams don't take divots. The ones that do are closer to scratch.
I'd really appreciate you addressing this one. Great to meet you and Ryan at the Show.
MC
I'd really appreciate you addressing this one. Great to meet you and Ryan at the Show.
MC
All I was asking was how you could ensure a no-flip divot. I probably should've been more specific with my question.
I don't think I ever said anything about the effectiveness or desirability of doing it one way or the other. I know that the point is to get the ball in the hole, which has been said by many people, many ways. I get it
.thefuture37
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so then how do you know if you are "doing it right"
Brian Manzella
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The Divot WALL Drill
If your head stays well back of your tailbone, & you don't curve the divot way left, you can't cheat the drill.
But with a "middle-ish" ball position, and some well timed knee bend, you can have a bent left wrist at impact AND a divot passed the ball.
If your head stays well back of your tailbone, & you don't curve the divot way left, you can't cheat the drill.
But with a "middle-ish" ball position, and some well timed knee bend, you can have a bent left wrist at impact AND a divot passed the ball.
Thats a good question I would like to see answered.
thefuture37
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So does that mean a reliable indicator of having NOT flipped is a divot in front of a ball position that is in line with the logo of your shirt?
Kevin Shields
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This is scary good analysis. I know two really good players who swing this way who don't hit it far but take divots past the ball.
cmartingolf
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That's harder than doing it right!!! Now that you mention it....I'm sad to say, I've seen it.
cmartingolf
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Great Wall of China
The Great Wall of China - ala Ben Doyle
I LOVE this drill and use it on about 50% of my students.
-get in a fairway bunker. The beach in Maui will do nicely. (wish I was there now in fact)
-Take the toe of your 7 or 8-iron and dig a 2-3" deep trench in a straight line.
-Assume your starting position with the clubhead in the bottom of the trench at ball position (inside your left foot, NOT CENTERED)
-To make a backswing, your clubhead will knock down the back wall of the trench. Your hands will move first and the clubhead last as the sand resists.
-Focus on allowing your pivot to help the clubhead wallop the target side of the trench with your through swing.
Great if you've had a bad day at the office.
The Great Wall of China - ala Ben Doyle
I LOVE this drill and use it on about 50% of my students.
-get in a fairway bunker. The beach in Maui will do nicely. (wish I was there now in fact)
-Take the toe of your 7 or 8-iron and dig a 2-3" deep trench in a straight line.
-Assume your starting position with the clubhead in the bottom of the trench at ball position (inside your left foot, NOT CENTERED)
-To make a backswing, your clubhead will knock down the back wall of the trench. Your hands will move first and the clubhead last as the sand resists.
-Focus on allowing your pivot to help the clubhead wallop the target side of the trench with your through swing.
Great if you've had a bad day at the office.
thefuture37
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The drill I am referring to is as follows. Make a divot in the center of your stance. Then without changing your stance, try to make another divot starting at the end of the first divot, thereby extending the divot line toward the target. Then try to take a third divot starting at the end of the second divot, etc... Again all without changing your stance from the first divot.
also, dont let your head go forward, and dont let the divots go left. tis cheats the drill
birdie_man
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Sweet explaination cmartin.
Have never gotten as clear an image of it as I do now.
Have never gotten as clear an image of it as I do now.
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