Chip Shots: Small Cut Shots?

[kc8kir]

Been trying to nail down my chipping to a reliable technique after constantly duffing chips while playing. Noticed today that with an open stance, club aimed at the target, I could just swing the club along my foot line and hit decent chip shots.

Question: Can chipping be as simple as just approaching them as little cut shots? Any negatives to this method?

 

[CanadianAMFTeachPro]

Right idea as you are actually using the D Plane method to chip here. Shaft angled forward, descending blow, face square at impact, club releasing down and left.

Check the spin of the ball as if it bounces straight, you are creating a perfect horizontal azimuth (no side spin).

 

[Brian Manzella]

Right idea as you are actually using the D Plane method to chip here. Shaft angled forward, descending blow, face square at impact, club releasing down and left.

Check the spin of the ball as if it bounces straight, you are creating a perfect horizontal azimuth (no side spin).

Absolutely DEAD ON correct.

 

[dannyc]

Absolutely DEAD ON correct.

how about that for an endorsement?

 

[kc8kir]

Awesome!

I knew I was onto something. It got really easy, really fast when I figured out the setup and move through the ball.

 

[JonWil]

sing down and left.

Check the spin of the ball as if it bounces straight, you are creating a perfect horizontal azimuth (no side spin).[/QUOTE]

Pro,
If you are swinging left along an open foot line how is it that no 'cut' spin is applied to the ball? Does the shaft lean cause the leading edge to move down the target line 'through the ball' as opposed to at some angle across it?

Thanks,

Jon

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

sing down and left.

Check the spin of the ball as if it bounces straight, you are creating a perfect horizontal azimuth (no side spin).

Pro,
If you are swinging left along an open foot line how is it that no 'cut' spin is applied to the ball? Does the shaft lean cause the leading edge to move down the target line 'through the ball' as opposed to at some angle across it?

Thanks,

Jon[/QUOTE]

More shaft lean = more inside/out impact; thus the more left path cancels out the lean.

 

[JonWil]

[/QUOTE]

More shaft lean = more inside/out impact; thus the more left path cancels out the lean.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Jim - I think if I fully understood this concept I could be on the way to better ball striking in general. I am going to noodle your information for sure.

 

[kc8kir]

I'll take a guess at this one.

The more shaft lean, the more the club is behind the arc of the rotating body pulling / pushing the lever through the impact zone, hence it's own arc (that of the clubhead / sweetspot) LAGS behind the arc of the body pivot relative to the target line. Therefore with more shaft lean for the same pivot arc, you get a more in-out impact condition.

In the chip shot, if you are going to have shaft lean fixed, you need to alter the path left to achieve a straight shot.

Am I close?

 

[JonWil]

I'll take a guess at this one.

The more shaft lean, the more the club is behind the arc of the rotating body pulling / pushing the lever through the impact zone, hence it's own arc (that of the clubhead / sweetspot) LAGS behind the arc of the body pivot relative to the target line. Therefore with more shaft lean for the same pivot arc, you get a more in-out impact condition.

In the chip shot, if you are going to have shaft lean fixed, you need to alter the path left to achieve a straight shot.

Am I close?

kc,
I sure hope you are because what is going on in your description is crystal clear.

 

[Kevin Shields]

remember, its downward hit, not shaft lean. You can have all kinds of lean and not make the path left

 

[kc8kir]

Good point.

My explanation was based on a visualization from above the golfer, and assumed the progression of the inclined swing arc did produce a descending strike (not to say that's the only condition possible for the orientation, combination, and progression of the clubhead path and pivot motion).

But I was close, right?