Chuck Cooks article in Golf Digest

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Tball88

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I don't believe he's a TGM guy, but I believe he was right on target with his article in Golf Digest this month. I know I fell into the trap of not using the right shoulder, because I was scared of coming over the top, resulted in hanging back and flipping the club....

What did you guys think about what he said..
 
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Not much TGM in his GD article. Seems like that broom handle drill is somewhat counter to Imperative #2, and he only advises to swing "down-and-through", but not "out".
 
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THe only issue I have with the article is the end when he describes what should be happening in a swing. "In the downswing, the right shoulder should fire right at the ball--down, out and forward"

Whenever I have attempted to aim my right shoulder directly at the ball, my pivot train is interrupted and my right shoulder doesn't feel it is properly lagging and fully participating in the shot. Feels like my right shoulder is making a weak ,underhanded, flat scooping motion.

HK describes the role of the right shoulder as 'back' and 'down' (plane). The right shoulder needs to rotatate away from the target a bit(back) before it rotates towards the ball(downplane). If I rotate the right shoulder back and down after a hip slide, I feel a powerful, overhanded, steeper driving motion.

Firing the right shoulder directly at the ball disrupts my pivot and creates lag leakage.
 
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Looks to me like he has WAY TOO MUCH axis tilt. I have noticed that in all of his articles and his book. He states in his book that he was influenced by TGM. But with the way he sets up the low point is going to move all over the place. One of his drills is to turn the shoulders and chest over the top of a chair that is resting on the right leg, ala Curtis Strange. That ain't no TGM pivot.

In his book he talks about the importance of flat left and bent right, but he makes no reference to LEVEL Right wrist. I think many of the instructors who claim to be influenced by TGM miss them importance of the Flying Wedges, particularly the right forearm wedge.
 
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Tball88

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So you guys, think that how he describes the right shoulder movement is incorrect? I'm interested in people thoughts on this, since this is a problem for me.
 
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quote:Originally posted by cdog

Chuck's article states "down, out, and forward". (step #3)
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He states that for the right shoulder ..... I believe Homer states this should be done with the clubhead .... but I could be wrong too .... [:I]
 
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quote:Originally posted by Tball88

So you guys, think that how he describes the right shoulder movement is incorrect? I'm interested in people thoughts on this, since this is a problem for me.
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When I try to "swing", this is the exact thing I am trying to do with my right shoulder.

I was doing it incorrectly for years, doing it exactly the way you said TBall (right shoulder hanging back), which led to too many fat shots.
 
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Tball88

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I think the right shoulder is a big reason a lot of people can't maintain lag. People(like me) can't maintain the best wrist and the problem isn't the hands, the problem is the right shoulder isn't moving down forward and out. Shoulder hangs back hands flip, bingo leakage hook or weak right...
 
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300Drive

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Please comment.....

But, I believe the proper sequence is that the right shoulder goes down first, then, forward and out....correct?
 
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