Classic under rotated left arm?
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GaryRead
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Ive been fascinated with the cuases of the shanks since It started to plague me from time to time.
I have read Brians thread on the motion of the clubhead that results in a shank hit.
Sweet spot of club resting on the plane, not rotating of plane and the 'brain' substituting the feel of the sweetspot of the club with the hosel as it is blocking the sweetspot and therefore one cannot differentiate between the 2 spots as they are effectively one and together (on a path to the ball, they are in line with the path of the motion and feel like 1)
So... you would reason that by under roatating the left forearm on the takeway, to effectively inhibit opening the club and laying the sweetspot onto the 'plane', this would eliminate the cause of the shank, i.e not roatting back, an OVER rotated club face.
Man the swing is confusing!
Is it just a case of the brain working its magic and actually OVER compensating for the very closed club face?? so in effect you are taking a good thing but over dosing it, and the body reacts by opening the club face in reacion to it being too closed?
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I have read Brians thread on the motion of the clubhead that results in a shank hit.
Sweet spot of club resting on the plane, not rotating of plane and the 'brain' substituting the feel of the sweetspot of the club with the hosel as it is blocking the sweetspot and therefore one cannot differentiate between the 2 spots as they are effectively one and together (on a path to the ball, they are in line with the path of the motion and feel like 1)
So... you would reason that by under roatating the left forearm on the takeway, to effectively inhibit opening the club and laying the sweetspot onto the 'plane', this would eliminate the cause of the shank, i.e not roatting back, an OVER rotated club face.
Man the swing is confusing!
Is it just a case of the brain working its magic and actually OVER compensating for the very closed club face?? so in effect you are taking a good thing but over dosing it, and the body reacts by opening the club face in reacion to it being too closed?
Interesting
Shot Limit
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Do all Casio's have the feature of triming video from the camera itself? I watched what I think was a 1000fps 4.5 min video of one swing, I mean the waggle took like 3 mins. The actually swing lasted about 12-15 seconds, then another minute plus walkin back to the camera.
Maybe I'm just impatient but it really got on my nerves. Guess it's not so bad at the end of the video when I can just stop the video after the swing. But in the beginning? C'mon man!
No offense to the guy in the video above, it's just that watching his shoes for 20 seconds made wonder why people don't trim thier high speed videos.
My apologies to Mr. HotSauce.
Maybe I'm just impatient but it really got on my nerves. Guess it's not so bad at the end of the video when I can just stop the video after the swing. But in the beginning? C'mon man!
No offense to the guy in the video above, it's just that watching his shoes for 20 seconds made wonder why people don't trim thier high speed videos.
My apologies to Mr. HotSauce.
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Shot Limit
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Mine too, it's like the first thing I do. I can't even stand to watch myself do all those waggles and the slow mo pimp walk, I'll start humming, "shorty tha pimp, he walks with a limp" bow ba dump dump da....lookout! I just lose focus.
Pimp on Shorty.
jenhaoyen
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YOU WOULD REALLY NEED TO REVERSE TUMBLE SOME AND THEN PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU ARE NOT GONNA SHANK. I stopped thinking about technical stuff, I really just pray to god on shot to shot now a days. lol
birly-shirly
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I hope Tiger's reading - because that's a real stinger.
I don't know what general conclusions to draw from one swing and one shank though. I've seen Darren Clarke, Ian Poulter and David Duval all hit rockets - so it can happen. Bummer to have it happen on youtube though!
As far as that backswing goes, is that a million miles away from Soft Draw?
I don't know what general conclusions to draw from one swing and one shank though. I've seen Darren Clarke, Ian Poulter and David Duval all hit rockets - so it can happen. Bummer to have it happen on youtube though!
As far as that backswing goes, is that a million miles away from Soft Draw?
jenhaoyen
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and lots of fat right?
jenhaoyen
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i feel the same though.....just use movie editor edit before posting. Sometimes it takes 5 min to see someone waggle lol
Yeah,his hands at impact are a good 3 or 4 inches in front of where they were at address.Standing too close to the ball doesn't help either.
You can all technical with reasons for the shank but ultimately if boils down to this.You just gotta figure out what's causing the hands forward position at impact.
jenhaoyen
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he had to open up a bunch or what you call it a reverse tumble because his left arm was really under rotated. Now, he's left arm actually rotated a little at the top, but if he never rotated, he would have to reverse tumble a bit and then tumble again
I think this swing is actually very coachable.He's got the right shifts going on at the right time in my opinion.A lot of good players use an under rotated left arm takeaway and then add the rotation as they are about to hit the top and in the early transition.Then from a slightly laid off or on plane transition,they tumble rather than reverse tumble from a steep position.
This player has this swing shape but he needs some adjustments in his setup and the handpath like DCgolf said is too much outwards on the downswing.This is causing his hands to be too far away from his body at impact and is not just causing shanks but he's coming OTT as well although this could be the camera angle exaggerating this.The camera should be pointing straight down the club hes laid down the ground,not behind it.
This player has this swing shape but he needs some adjustments in his setup and the handpath like DCgolf said is too much outwards on the downswing.This is causing his hands to be too far away from his body at impact and is not just causing shanks but he's coming OTT as well although this could be the camera angle exaggerating this.The camera should be pointing straight down the club hes laid down the ground,not behind it.
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