Closed Clubface....

[Tball88]

Played nine yesterday and I'm getting a case of the left's. Divots are going straight or slightly right(right-handed), so I'm guessing getting a closed face at impact. As a swinger should you go to impact fix first to make sure you won't be closed at impact??? My swing thought is to actually hit the ball with the wrist bone leading the hand, I may be overexaggerating the hinge... Thanks

 

[birdie_man]

Divot direction is most likely plane line, no?

Your clubface is closed in relation to the inside-out plane line (if your divots are going right but the ball still goes left...).

If your face was fine when it hit the ball but your club was swinging out to right field, even still you'll have some hook spin, or draw spin anyway.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

What kind of "left" is it?

A true hook that STARTS RIGHT and comes back left and keeps going left?

or

A pull hook that STARTS LEFT and keeps going left?

 

[Tball88]

Appears to be a pull hook, that's why I think it's a face issue more than a plane issue. divot straight or very slightly right, ball go left....

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

hmm....very odd. Sounds like a clubface pull, however those are hard to produce. I'm not quite sure on how to fix that issue. So i'll let someone else help.

 

[Tball88]

Hit balls again today, think it might be a leakage hook... I may be letting the right wrist flatten out and close the clubface a bit coming into impact. Sometimes I have a tendency to lose my lag. Anybody got some drills to help with maintaining lag?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

stick a tee in the ground in front of the ball and towards the 10 o'clock area. Put the tee about 4-6" in front of the ball. Hit the tee through impact.

Also, take your golf towel and tie it around the hosel of your club. Now make swings letting the club swing you. If you try to throw it away, you'll know because it won't feel very good in your wrists

 

[birdie_man]

Wet golf towel?

 

[Archie Swivel]

Perhaps you are coming from too much inside. Humor me and hit a couple of balls where your aiming point is straight dead-on the back of the ball, but finish low-and-around. (Its a diagnostic drill, not a swing change) Report back.

 

[Tball88]

Archie swivel, I tried out what you were saying and started swing more left and started to actually hit a bit of a fade. I still have a tendency to hang back and flip coming into impact, I think that's where I'm getting the lefts.

 

[Archie Swivel]

I think you can get some good use from Brian's Never Hook Again Video. It has DRASTICALLY increased my control, but admittedly I have sacrificed a little distance. I would usually try to draw a 9-iron 145-147 yards but if I was off a couple of degrees coming in from inside aft quadrant, I would hit a monster push or flip it and overcook it. After his video, I hit my 8-iron 145, but its is a DEAD straight ball. My drives are 245-265 yard fades instead of giant sweeping 280-yarders, but I am finally mature enough to be happy with that and my misses don't sting as much. Have you alreayd seen the video?

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[DDL]

quote:Originally posted by jim_0068



Also, take your golf towel and tie it around the hosel of your club. Now make swings letting the club swing you. If you try to throw it away, you'll know because it won't feel very good in your wrists

This is very interesting. Chuck's homepage has a couple of drills where one uses either the right shoulder or the rotating body to swing a rope off the right shoulder or drag a wet mop along the ground. NEVER swing from the wrists.Implies not just the right wrist, but both wrists.

However, Mr. Blake states the left wrist or PP#2 is loaded, and uses those two interchangably. However, I don't believe PP#2 and the left wrist are interchangable. PP#2 refers, if I am not mistaken, to pressure felt in the last 3 fingers of the left hand as a RESULT of the left wrist cocking. PP#2 is NOT pressure felt in the left wrist itself, I believe. I have tried every freaking method of loading the left wrist to swing, and it ain't happening. Striking the ball decently requires both of my wrists to be pressure and stree free. However, I do feel stress in the fingers of my left hand. I've always read in the TGM forums that one monitors pressure in the hands, thus I am interpreting that literally to mean just the hands and not the left wrist.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

quote:Originally posted by DDL

quote:Originally posted by jim_0068



Also, take your golf towel and tie it around the hosel of your club. Now make swings letting the club swing you. If you try to throw it away, you'll know because it won't feel very good in your wrists

This is very interesting. Chuck's homepage has a couple of drills where one uses either the right shoulder or the rotating body to swing a rope off the right shoulder or drag a wet mop along the ground. NEVER swing from the wrists.Implies not just the right wrist, but both wrists.

However, Mr. Blake states the left wrist or PP#2 is loaded, and uses those two interchangably. However, I don't believe PP#2 and the left wrist are interchangable. PP#2 refers, if I am not mistaken, to pressure felt in the last 3 fingers of the left hand as a RESULT of the left wrist cocking. PP#2 is NOT pressure felt in the left wrist itself, I believe. I have tried every freaking method of loading the left wrist to swing, and it ain't happening. Striking the ball decently requires both of my wrists to be pressure and stree free. However, I do feel stress in the fingers of my left hand. I've always read in the TGM forums that one monitors pressure in the hands, thus I am interpreting that literally to mean just the hands and not the left wrist.

I think your misunderstanding....notice i said, "If you try to throw it away, you'll know because it won't feel very good in your wrists " meaning if you try to involve the wrists, at all, (ie some type of throwaway or wrist throw or something you shouldn't be doing) the club will basically stick itself in the ground (due to the tremendous weight in the head from the towel) and when this happens your wrists are going to hurt.

Imagine trying to "wrist throw" a medicus...not going to feel very good lmao. That is what i'm talking about...both the medicus and the towel around the hosel help people learn to NOT USE THEIR WRISTS