Closer or Further...Which is better?

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Okay... If you had to err in one direction or the other, which is more preferable, standing closer to the ball, or further? How do they influence contact, ball flight, etc.?
 

Erik_K

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Your ideal distance from the ball in influenced by many things; most notably the club (assuming you have clubs long/short enough to allow you to have good posture, proper waist/knee bend, etc).

That said, there are a few variables to keep in mind. When you are swinging down to the ball, the arms are straightening out. Also, your left shoulder is rotating UP and BACK behind you. Thus, for some golfers, these two things cancel each other out and whereever they place the ball on the ground and stand next to it is OK.

However, for many other players, some adjustment is needed and this can probably only be done with some trial and error. For example, if you are hitting shots off the heel your arms might be straightening out more than how much your left shoulder is rotating up and back behind you. The solution, move back a touch.

The opposite could also happen. If you are hitting some off the toe. It's possible your arms are still straigtening out, but maybe your shoulder isn't moving back far enough and the result is hit off the toe. The solution, try moving in a bit.

Look at any good player at impact and notice how the arms are straightER than they were at address and that their hips and shoulders are OPEN.
 
Thanks for the reply, Erik. Besides heel or toe contact, how does distance from the ball affect the actual swing? For example, does standing closer to the ball make it easier to maintain your angles (flying wedges)? I read this somewhere, and I'm wondering what other things are affected by how close/far you stand.
 
Standing a little further away from the ball is better than standing closer.

Why?

Because the compensations you need to make when the ball is further away is much more 'beneficial' (or less detrimental) to your swing than those you need when the ball is closer to your body.
 

Burner

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Take the club (any club) in your right hand at the place you would normally grip it. Extend your right arm out in front of you parallel to the ground, say at shoulder height. The shaft should be running up your forearm a little.

Just bend from the hips (not the waist) until the clubhead is soled, as if at address, and you will find that you are the correct distance away from the ball.
 
Thanks for the replies, fellas.


quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

Standing a little further away from the ball is better than standing closer.

Why?

Because the compensations you need to make when the ball is further away is much more 'beneficial' (or less detrimental) to your swing than those you need when the ball is closer to your body.


Could you elaborate on this, Tong?
 
quote:Originally posted by Bigwill

Okay... If you had to err in one direction or the other, which is more preferable, standing closer to the ball, or further? How do they influence contact, ball flight, etc.?

Did anyone stand farther from the ball than Moe Norman?
 
quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

Standing a little further away from the ball is better than standing closer.

Why?

Because the closer you are to the ball, the harder it is to get to the inside quadrant.
 
quote:Originally posted by Bigwill

Thanks for the replies, fellas.


quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

Standing a little further away from the ball is better than standing closer.

Why?

Because the compensations you need to make when the ball is further away is much more 'beneficial' (or less detrimental) to your swing than those you need when the ball is closer to your body.
Could you elaborate on this, Tong?
An example would be shortening the ideal radius of your stroke by pulling your arms in. This won't allow you to apply Extensor Action properly and hence no structural rigidity and no Rhythm.
 

Burner

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quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

quote:Originally posted by Bigwill

Thanks for the replies, fellas.


quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

Standing a little further away from the ball is better than standing closer.

Why?

Because the compensations you need to make when the ball is further away is much more 'beneficial' (or less detrimental) to your swing than those you need when the ball is closer to your body.
Could you elaborate on this, Tong?
An example would be shortening the ideal radius of your stroke by pulling your arms in. This won't allow you to apply Extensor Action properly and hence no structural rigidity and no Rhythm.
And the, more than occassional, shank will likely ensue as a result.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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It's easier to flip and lose leakage if you stand up to it. I agree it's better to error on the side of slightly too bent over and slightly farther away from it.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

I find that if I stand up taller the ball goes less left.

As i said, it's easier to 1) flip at it (closes the face) and 2) it's really easy to come over the plane on the downswing which again, means left.
 
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