i have a question on the fit of my clubs as it may relate to ballstriking. i have slightly longer armlengh for my body, but use standard length clubs. still fall within that range. problem is that i have a hard time hitting ball first, then divot afterwards. i think my pivot is decent but club seems to bottom out usually before the ball. should i stand a tad more away from the ball to give a longer distance so my club will bottom out a bit later?
club length as it relates to divots?
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Brian Manzella
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Modern Theory....or Old Time Wisdom?
Jack Nicklaus played most of his career with a Driver that was 42 7/8" and a 38" 3-iron.
That is not a misprint.
In PING's current G10 clubs, the 3-iron is 38.75", and the Driver is 45.75" !!!
When today's teaching pros (present company excluded of course
) look at Nicklaus' or Palmer's set-ups, they think they were too bent over.
Ah....no.
So....where does this leave us today?
Well, it leaves us in the world of high-end custom fitting, where screw-in clubs will begin to dominate, and you'll be able to try almost any combination.
I evaluate length on a golfer-by-golfer basis, and just as some need today's standard lengths, some folks—maybe piemean included—need the "olf standard."
Either way, make sue at the end of the day, the lie angles are perfect.
Jack Nicklaus played most of his career with a Driver that was 42 7/8" and a 38" 3-iron.
That is not a misprint.
In PING's current G10 clubs, the 3-iron is 38.75", and the Driver is 45.75" !!!
When today's teaching pros (present company excluded of course
) look at Nicklaus' or Palmer's set-ups, they think they were too bent over.Ah....no.
So....where does this leave us today?
Well, it leaves us in the world of high-end custom fitting, where screw-in clubs will begin to dominate, and you'll be able to try almost any combination.
I evaluate length on a golfer-by-golfer basis, and just as some need today's standard lengths, some folks—maybe piemean included—need the "olf standard."
Either way, make sue at the end of the day, the lie angles are perfect.
Dariusz J.
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Brian, I'd say: definitely Old Time Wisdom enriched by some achievements of Modern Technology (such as e.g. MOI Theory or Graduated Roll Technology).
People tend to trust big OEM companies not knowing that their primary goal is to sell products off the shelf - and they usually buy wrongly-fitted products off the shelf...
45.75" driver is a complete misunderstanding for 98% golfers.
Cheers
People tend to trust big OEM companies not knowing that their primary goal is to sell products off the shelf - and they usually buy wrongly-fitted products off the shelf...
45.75" driver is a complete misunderstanding for 98% golfers.
Cheers
Brian Manzella
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Brian Manzella
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Down the line.
StewartBannatyne
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I am 5'8" and pretty average in terms of arm length and whatnot. I've always used a shorter driver, ever since I was fit by Titleist in 2002, and they showed me that I was longer and more accurate with a 44" driver as opposed to a 45" driver.
Just recently I ordered a new set of irons, and dropped the length on them to 1/4" below standard. What a difference! You wouldn't think you could notice such a miniscule length difference, but it is night and day. Striking has improved dramatically, and it gives me the feeling of having so much more room throughout the swing.
Stew
Just recently I ordered a new set of irons, and dropped the length on them to 1/4" below standard. What a difference! You wouldn't think you could notice such a miniscule length difference, but it is night and day. Striking has improved dramatically, and it gives me the feeling of having so much more room throughout the swing.
Stew
Jim Kobylinski
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Just so happens i did a rather big analysis on longer drivers verse shorter drivers. I even think i posted it here, do a search you might find it.
Essentially the shorter driver *should* be longer on average however you bad misses will be penalized much worse than if you had a longer driver.
Essentially the shorter driver *should* be longer on average however you bad misses will be penalized much worse than if you had a longer driver.
Jim Kobylinski
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Swing weight will be drastically different to the point where most make a different swing.
birdie_man
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How accurate is PING's online fitting service?
They have a little program here that measures wrist-to-floor, etc.
http://www.pinggolf.com/global_webfit.html
They have a little program here that measures wrist-to-floor, etc.
http://www.pinggolf.com/global_webfit.html
i'll have to do some experimenting to find low point. if it is just under the left shoulder or armpit, then with my regular length clubs when i seem to drop the club down, it hits well before the ball--as if it could actually go lower. when i choke down on the club, lowpoint seems to be more on the ball.
somehow i'll find a way to post those pics.
somehow i'll find a way to post those pics.
thanks
Dariusz J.
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Jim Kobylinski
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All things being equal it will be easier to find the sweet spot on a higher percentage with a shorter driver, that means more ball speed on average and more distance on average.
However like i also mentioned, your "misses" will be A LOT worse than they were before because of the lack of swing speed with the shorter shaft.
haven't found a way to post a picture at address, but i do have a couple swings on youtube that shows my regular stance and motion. anyone feel free to comment and give any tips. i feel that i should have more bend at address.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiYgEIQbbjU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiYgEIQbbjU
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