Cocking and pressure

[oztrainee]

From address to the top. Both forearm and wrist should be totally relax. In order to hinge properly, we would need a powerless wrist.

Now the question is, when we are cocking the wrist during the upswing, we are applying pressure from our trailing elbow. (hope that I am saying the right things)
If we are applying pressure from our trailing elbow, then our right forearm and wrist will not be powerless anymore, and it will be quite stiff then. What should be the equilibum?[:I]

 

[mgjordan]

The left wrist cocks when the right elbow bends. The right wrist remains solid and frozen. If you are starting from standard address, the left wrist moves from bent to flat when extensor action is applies. The right arm will pull the left into a straight line.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

here here mgj....

You shouldn't be "consciously" trying to cock your wrists. Allow your left wrist to cock from the bending/folding of the right elbow

 

[revert]

To add to this thread, top of my backswing my left wrist is normally a little cupped. I'm trying to flatten it a little but i feel definate pressure on the wrist and left forearm. This is with a neutral grip. Anyone got a suggestion, tip or drill? Thanks.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

quote:Originally posted by revert

To add to this thread, top of my backswing my left wrist is normally a little cupped. I'm trying to flatten it a little but i feel definate pressure on the wrist and left forearm. This is with a neutral grip. Anyone got a suggestion, tip or drill? Thanks.

http://www.manzellagolfforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=222

You don't have to do the twist-away but look at how brian's wrist both cock and you get a cup.

there should be no vertical/cocking motion of the right wrist. Try and bend your right wrist all the way back to your forearm...this will flatten it

 

[revert]

Thanks for the link, i've already looked at it and while i understand what's he's saying, my problem, if i bend back the right wrist i feel tension in the wrist and forearm. I don't feel i can strike a ball very with that tension?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Remember when you bend that right wrist BACK to keep the left flat...the right forearm should turn a little bit due to the cocking of the left wrist.

If you are trying to resist this turn this is probably why you have the tension

 

[oztrainee]

quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

Remember when you bend that right wrist BACK to keep the left flat...the right forearm should turn a little bit due to the cocking of the left wrist.

If you are trying to resist this turn this is probably why you have the tension

The right forearm turn a little bit, do you mean that at the time when we are putting the shaft back on plane?

 

[birdie_man]

One of the best tips I ever heard (and it was on this site) relating to hinging was to "make the same motion with your right hand as you would hammering a nail with a hammer.

The only differences are:

-when you setup for your golf swing, your right hand is not "hammering" straight up and down, it "hammers" on an angle because your grip is turned. That's why you turn your grip...to extablish a plane, I guess.

-when you are hammering a nail you only hinge from your elbow (like a bicep curl motion- more specifically, a HAMMER CURL motion- hence the name). You don't want to do that in your golf swing- no extension. So...you do basically the same move (the same hammering motion- with the same wrist angles) but the hinge is not at your elbow, it's from your right shoulder. This will give you some extension (whereas doing it from your elbow will not).
However, when you do this you don't ever want to extend your right arm out so much that it straightens at the elbow. You need to keep that elbow algle intact. ---If you ever hear of the "right forearm flying wedge" in TGM, well this is it.

-as for what initiates this whole motion from your setup: it should be more your forearms...or right forearm (for a right forearm pickup).

So basically, what this does is it shows you how to take away the club while keeping the same grip alignments, wrist angles, etc. as you had at setup...provided you setup your hands correctly to start.

If you have any questions just ask man.
-Paul

BTW...Brian, we have been posting a lot in your section lately...do you want us to hold off more and wait for you?

 

[birdie_man]

...to make sure you do that on plane, use the flashlight drill.