COFF/ Drills for indoor practice

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Blitzpackage569

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The best way to start off this post is by saying that I am currently a student at a northern university who is living in the dorms and is looking to improve his golf swing. Before the year began I went through a lesson plan with golftec, and while I was very happy with the improvements in consistency, they did nothing to help improve the lack of shaft lean that I have at impact(at the ball my wrist is flat) no matter how hard they tried. Personally I have tried every drill and or word of advice to try and fix this problem, but thus far nothing has worked. My question is twofold, one are some of these drills contained in this video new and or unique and two can they be practiced indoors. At this point it seems no matter how hard I try this problem will not go away, so in closing ill just say that any tips, drills or insight on this problem would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Clarify please

Are you saying that your left wrist IS flat at impact but you just lack alot of forward lean?
 
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Blitzpackage569

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I personally believe that my wrist is flat, sorry for the lack of description by the way but i am also a lefty.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3fP2QV-VFo[/media]

There is a video of my swing, and on slower/ smaller swings I can get my hands in front of the shaft, but no matter what I seem to do I cannot do it on the full swing. Some other information is my divot pattern is usually right at the ball, not in front of it as is supposed to happen. This two problems are what drive me crazy and I cant seem to fix. Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
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I recall my college days very fondly;they were the best seven years of my life. This may come as a shock to a lot of people on this forum, but golf is a HARD game, for some a life-long struggle. So Blitz, I would tell you to spend time with your books and your friends. But to answer your question, I would suggest using a Taly training device. When used correctly it will develop forward shaft lean. You can also use it to chip balls in your dorm room or just take practice pitches/swings.
 
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Kevin Shields

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Even though you may not end up playing with it, I would train and experiment with an inner core lagging clubhead takeaway with the body out running the club and the club staying outside the hands in the early parts of the swing. Your clubhead gets behind you too soon and stays there as your body slides, tilts and unwinds, leaving your trail elbow behind.

In your dorm, put a cushion about 6 inches ahead of your right foot and do an LCT and while keeping your head from sliding forward, practice putting the whole shaft on the cushion.
 
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Blitzpackage569

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First off thank you so much for explaining that, the first thing that I commented on my swing is how my elbow seems to get "stuck" but the pro I was with seemed to not take notice of it at all.

In terms of the drill can you elaborate a bit? It seemed to be similar to an impact bag drill?

What exactly is an LCT and is "putting the whole shaft on the cushion" the image im looking for. Any elaboration would be greatly appreciated and thanks for all of the responses thus far.
 
vjsinger

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Do you think about width and getting behind the ball in the BS? Drills for your dorm??....practice your putting.
 
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Blitzpackage569

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Agreed, I am already on top of that and my backswing thoughts are pretty simple. Usually i keep it to rotating the shoulders and just letting it unwind. I worked a bit on "posting up" on the downswing but never anything about winding up behind the ball.
 
Shot Limit

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Pillow drill

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Push the club shaft to the pillow in the perpendicular to the floor position.
 
Mr. J

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may I also suggest you practice your pivot motion...do a search in the forum for "pivot" and you will find a great post where Brian explains the pivot with some great pics too...imo, ingraining this move during the indoor practice session will be a great way to train your body to make this move when you get back at it...good luck!!!
 
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Blitzpackage569

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I apologize to bring this old thread back, but in response to some topics that were brought up before, I was wondering if my elbow getting "stuck" was as a result only of an improper takeaway or if there were other things in play. Is this a sequence issue in terms of my downswing? I am looking to improve my elbow position and any help would be greatly appreciated. I have worked on my takeaway, but my elbow still seems to get caught against my body.
 
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greenfree

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With your club position at the top you need to rotate your upper body more and drop your arms less, in the d.s. Your club/arms are in behind and dropping your arms combined with axis tilt get's your club stuck more behind and under.
If you keep this b.s. you need to feel like your coming over the top on the d.s., reverse shift,if that makes any sense to you, just my opinion.
 
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westy

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Swing left

Hit down. And left. (sorry, right is left for you. down is still down....)
 
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Kevin Shields

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Blitzpackage569 said:
I personally believe that my wrist is flat, sorry for the lack of description by the way but i am also a lefty.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3fP2QV-VFo[/media]

There is a video of my swing, and on slower/ smaller swings I can get my hands in front of the shaft, but no matter what I seem to do I cannot do it on the full swing. Some other information is my divot pattern is usually right at the ball, not in front of it as is supposed to happen. This two problems are what drive me crazy and I cant seem to fix. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Do a search on the "tumble"
 
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Blitzpackage569

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Thanks for all the reply's thus far, I have done a bit of reading on the tumble, but still had a few things to clarify. Is the tumble caused by a rotation of the arms or hands, or do both achieve the same affect? Any clarification of this "fling the mud off" move would be greatly appreciated.

Also is this tumble a permanent solution or just something to use until the top of my backswing is changed?

And lastly can you explain what you mean by reverse shift?(I wasnt sure if you meant something like reverse pivot).
 
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greenfree

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Blitzpackage569 said:
Thanks for all the reply's thus far, I have done a bit of reading on the tumble, but still had a few things to clarify. Is the tumble caused by a rotation of the arms or hands, or do both achieve the same affect? Any clarification of this "fling the mud off" move would be greatly appreciated.

Also is this tumble a permanent solution or just something to use until the top of my backswing is changed?

And lastly can you explain what you mean by reverse shift?(I wasnt sure if you meant something like reverse pivot).
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Not reverse pivot. Work the club/clubhead more over and out as opposed to keeping it more in and down, in the d.s. assuming you keep your original b.s.
 
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TROYNYGOLFER

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Chip Putterman said:
I recall my college days very fondly;they were the best seven years of my life. This may come as a shock to a lot of people on this forum, but golf is a HARD game, for some a life-long struggle. So Blitz, I would tell you to spend time with your books and your friends. But to answer your question, I would suggest using a Taly training device. When used correctly it will develop forward shaft lean. You can also use it to chip balls in your dorm room or just take practice pitches/swings.
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Damn, I guess Chip was in the advanced program. If I had been there another year, they were going to name a building after me. In any event if you have not done so, I urge you to pruchas COFF, it has a couple of drills you may be able to use in you room, especially the short pitch initiated by pivot drill.
 
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