COFF drills for indoors or the driving range (with mats)

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ParHunter

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Hi,
I am currently trying to fix my flipping and clubhead throwaway. I bought COFF and NSA2.0 as well.
Yesterday I went to the practise range at my golf club to practise the drills in COFF, all well and nice when you play of real turf but I only manage to get to my club on the weekends.
I am trying to get this flipping fixed before the seasons starts proper. I am looking for drills I can do indoors in short breaks but with limited space to swing a cat let alone golf club (chips should be okay).
And how can you best practise these drills on a driving range with mats? My driving range is only 3 minutes away but only has mats. (My club is about 20 min drive so I can't do it during lunch breaks). On the mats I simply can't tell whether I hit ball first or the mat just before ball.

What are your suggestions for
a) indoor drills without full swing
b) COFF drills on mats

Thanks
 
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ParHunter

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macduffer said:
Put a small coin an inch behind the ball. It would be difficult to miss the coin and hit the mat before the ball.
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I like the idea but I am a bit worried what my clubs will look like after hitting into the coin. I've got shiny new Mizunos and I wouldn't want any scratches on them. But I guess it would work with e.g. a plastic coin or something.
 
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golfdad

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hello, i saw one of brian's videos on youtube one time and he demonstrated a partial chip/punch shot where he "held" his wrists through the shot. i cannot find it right now going through some of them.

but essentially, i think that is a good shot to imitate. i think for someone who has a tendency to flip, or not know how to flip if you will, try hold the wrist and experience how it feels like.

for example, when you chip a shot with 10 feet air time, i hope you agree you do not flip or release your wrists. i think that feeling is the correct feeling. then you practice longer and longer backswings to see if you can still maintain that feeling during impact.

there is this paper scotch tape (diff color )you can buy to put a piece down on the mat.

in the beginning days, even on mat, i told my kids to try take a divot that is 10 inches ahead of the ball. they knew i was being facetious, but they got the point that proper descent and entry is possibly way more forward than you are comfortable with.

the other thing is weight distribution. i am not a s and t person, but for iron play, esp learning not to flip, put more weight on the front leg, bringing out the natural downward strike.

don't let the fear of hitting on the mat drive you to flip. couple downward strikes, as if you plan to hit the ball INTO the mat, are not going to do damage, if you really hit the ball first.
 
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ParHunter said:
I like the idea but I am a bit worried what my clubs will look like after hitting into the coin. I've got shiny new Mizunos and I wouldn't want any scratches on them. But I guess it would work with e.g. a plastic coin or something.
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I believe the intent of this drill is not to hit the coin, similar to the drill in COFF where you place an object behind the ball like the plane board in the video
 
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ParHunter

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golfdad said:
hello, i saw one of brian's videos on youtube one time and he demonstrated a partial chip/punch shot where he "held" his wrists through the shot. i cannot find it right now going through some of them.

but essentially, i think that is a good shot to imitate. i think for someone who has a tendency to flip, or not know how to flip if you will, try hold the wrist and experience how it feels like.
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I think that is part of COFF, confessions of a former flipper. I got my impact bag out from the storage and started practising to hit these little chip shots into the impact bag. That way I can't damage anything with my followthrough

golfdad said:
there is this paper scotch tape (diff color )you can buy to put a piece down on the mat.
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I think that is a good alternative to a coin. Thanks for the tip

golfdad said:
the other thing is weight distribution. i am not a s and t person, but for iron play, esp learning not to flip, put more weight on the front leg, bringing out the natural downward strike.

don't let the fear of hitting on the mat drive you to flip. couple downward strikes, as if you plan to hit the ball INTO the mat, are not going to do damage, if you really hit the ball first.
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I am not worried about hitting the mat, I did have some inflammation in my left shoulder some years ago because of hitting the mat to heavy but that doesn't stop me from practising on mats.

So Golfdad, are you the guy to ask for advise when it comes to teaching kids golf? When did you start with your kids? My little boy is still to young (20 month) but he likes to hit balls with his little plastic golf club (although he hits it in the wrong direction :)
 
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When i was working with COFF I used a towel behind the ball a foot and then I used a small piece of crayon right behind the ball on the mat. No scratches just wax.
 
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golfdad

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ParHunter said:
I think that is part of COFF, confessions of a former flipper. I got my impact bag out from the storage and started practising to hit these little chip shots into the impact bag. That way I can't damage anything with my followthrough


I think that is a good alternative to a coin. Thanks for the tip


I am not worried about hitting the mat, I did have some inflammation in my left shoulder some years ago because of hitting the mat to heavy but that doesn't stop me from practising on mats.

So Golfdad, are you the guy to ask for advise when it comes to teaching kids golf? When did you start with your kids? My little boy is still to young (20 month) but he likes to hit balls with his little plastic golf club (although he hits it in the wrong direction :)
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you know, the other thing with mat practicing (esp when not able to see the ball flight well) is that it actually forces or can teach one to listen to the impact. a good shot sounds very different than a poorly shot. a good shot has a lower pitch (no pun intended). you also get feedback in your hands,,,from the vibrations.

i did and do help my kids to practice or drive them around to tournaments, but my expertise is limited to just that. just observation, on them and other kids around and reflect back to them what i saw. in the beginning it is very much a psychology session. how to face reality and put things in perspective:)

more often than not, i have guys on the range come up to me. they never said: why are you here? instead, they always said: you know, i wish my father spent the time with me when i was younger. not in a bitter way, but there is some truth to learning something like golf earlier in the years.

i am sure others will come up to you when your kid is ready:)

i will try to arrange to have my kids evaled by brian or one of his guys this summer if i can make the arrangement. the best way, aka the short cut, is to start them on the right track from day one. habits are so difficult to break! i think each habit breaking later in life causes about 20k dollars :):):)
 
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lookingtolearn

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You could practice hitting chips off a lie board.

Put some black electrical tape on the sole of the club. Try and make solid contact and make a mark on the sole that is against the leading edge.

The tape will also help prevent any scratches.
 
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birly-shirly

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ParHunter said:
Hi,
I am currently trying to fix my flipping and clubhead throwaway. I bought COFF and NSA2.0 as well.
Yesterday I went to the practise range at my golf club to practise the drills in COFF, all well and nice when you play of real turf but I only manage to get to my club on the weekends.
I am trying to get this flipping fixed before the seasons starts proper. I am looking for drills I can do indoors in short breaks but with limited space to swing a cat let alone golf club (chips should be okay).
And how can you best practise these drills on a driving range with mats? My driving range is only 3 minutes away but only has mats. (My club is about 20 min drive so I can't do it during lunch breaks). On the mats I simply can't tell whether I hit ball first or the mat just before ball.

What are your suggestions for
a) indoor drills without full swing
b) COFF drills on mats

Thanks
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Indoors, I think you can still rehearse the feel of a small pivot-powered swing. Doesn't COFF have a towel drill for just that?

For the range - I'd think the thumbs-up/thumbs-down drill would be just as effective off a mat than off grass.
 
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ParHunter

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I think I've found the perfect training aid for use on mats here on the forum.
I've just ordered TourStriker, a club that will only get the ball airborn
If you have enough forward lean on the shaft (flat left wrist).
That should give you good feedback even when practicing of a mat.

I hope it will be more useful than the other training aids I bought over the years :)
 
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