consistency vs hitting it great
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Jared Willerson
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funny you brought this up. I can absolutely sizzle a ball when I float load a little, however, I am very inconsistent with my iron distances. Much more consistent directionally and distance wise when I utilize and early set without too much wrist cock.
But man, do I love the feeling of using float loading to smoke one...
But man, do I love the feeling of using float loading to smoke one...
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I love driving a monster truck - fun, big, crushing, fearless, and chicks dig it. The only draw backs are they handle poorly, tend to turn over at the wrong time, can be a bit dangerous for those around, and they suck at going to the bank in.
I'm hoping one day to have something a little more practical and easier to handle...
I'm hoping one day to have something a little more practical and easier to handle...
Dear tongzilla,
I think I have seen a video of your swing, but I would appreciate links to both front and down the line links if available.
As you have probably read on several other posts, I am a zealot about the importance of lower body dynamic balance and consistent tempo, and IMO, with 5 years of research but limited testing have concluded that FORTUNATELY, you can' have your cake and eat it too'. That is, you can have distance and dispersion control, together, and still hit it hard.
But, the science dictates that you must have both consistent tempo, and some degree of lower body dynamic stability MARGIN.
Unfortunately, when we try to 'smoke it', AND ALL GOLFERS DO, FREQUENTLY, the results are usually problematic.
So, since you are the first Brian site poster that I can identify as what I call, a 120 'percenter', meaning the energy used to bomb it, so, I have a request.
Could you, (hopefully on a FlightScope or Trackman if available), assume the "Bumpy back' set up position, and then 'keep it back as you unload the 120% downswing. If the ball, after several shots, does not go near down the middle, please ADD a slight knee bend to your set up, maybe an inch at a time, and hit 5 more shots for each new position. If those are better, that is your best set-up stance for lower body dynamic stability, which should allow you to bomb it more often.
If you are not a professional instructor, please check with one to get informed as to how often you should swing this hard.
Please let all of us know your results, and if you were able to record these swings on a launch monitor, please post the tabular summary results for at least carry distance/dispersion, and miss distance average and dispersion.
Thanks, good luck, and sincerely,
art
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Hi Art
Hi Art,
Do you mind me asking what your opinion is on the setup when viewed down the line, or in other words how you like the posture of the back, its bent overness and angle etc.
I have experimented both with standing more upright like bubba and more bent over like stanley and find the negatives of more upright leads to a cut while the more bent over leads to fats.
Hi Art,
Do you mind me asking what your opinion is on the setup when viewed down the line, or in other words how you like the posture of the back, its bent overness and angle etc.
I have experimented both with standing more upright like bubba and more bent over like stanley and find the negatives of more upright leads to a cut while the more bent over leads to fats.
Dear GaryRead,
A great question, and one I MUST consider when describing the positions that increase the required stability MARGINS we all need.
In your case, the additional information is VERY informative and indicates to me that your 'center of gravity'(CG) for BOTH stances is REDUCING the lower body dynamic balance and stability you REQUIRE for your body and swing style.
So, without having access to a video, I guess, with both set-up positions, your CG is much too forward requiring BOTH a knee bend, or lowering of the body an inch at a time, AND OF COURSE the 'Bumpy back, keep it back' (during the transition and early downswing) and most importantly feel (sorry Steve, where are you ?), as if your full body weight is at least between your toes and your heels, and favoring the heels in your case.
As an indicator and test of your 'natural-swing , dynamic balance take your 'bubba' set up, and without a ball, take horizontal swings increasing from 50 to 100 percent of your regular swing. See if your feet and hips were stable during say 10 back and forth motions. Then try your 'stanley' like swing, and repeat the test. The style that provided you with the LEAST disturbance, and was the easier to add energy is the one I would like you to use for the 'Bumpy back', and body lowering set-up changes swings hitting a ball..
So tee it up, and as the joke goes, you will find that with these stability enhancements, "there's a pony in here someplace".
Good luck, and please post the results you get.
Thanks, and regards,
art
About 2 months ago I hit a few irons with a world class flight and sound one time!! Ever since I don't care about consistency I shoot around par to mid 70s, I just want to hit the ball like that all I thought was line up coupling point, but haven't done it since......that's my soul destroying answer lol
Dear 66er,
I sincerely want to show you how to make the dream shot you described, a HABIT, NOT AN EXCEPTION.
Have you tried 'Bumpy back, keep it back' ???
I realize that lower body dynamic balance posts are getting boring and routine, but suppose I 'guaranteed' you hits like you are referring to, almost every time, wouldn't you at least give it a try ?
Here's the scientific scoop, but please keep it between the two of us. EVERYBODY I have tested on force plates, FlightScope and Trackman and of course on the driving range and golf course using only our God given senses HAS DISPLAYED A LACK OF LOWER BODY DYNAMIC STABILITY. Yes, everybody, but how do I know when there was insufficient scientific instrumentation to document such an all encompassing statement ?
I used the errant shot as the evidence of the problem. But unlike a lot of posts, I did not just criticize, I offered a solution that I WAS SURE WOULD WORK. But what's the evidence of the SOLUTION ?
That's a fair question, and the answer is, I asked ALL of the literally hundred or so folks I have helped, to hit the next, and a few additional shots with increased dynamic balance, using several available , easy-to-do set up or swing changes the 'BEST OF WHICH has worked out to be, yes, 'Bumpy back, keep it back'.
The teaching pro's and playing pro's I have had the fortune of discussing/presenting this 'dynamic balance story', respond, as you probably have guessed, out of 10, 9 probably saying/thinking that's bull____, and the other one fortunately said, maybe, lets try it.
In this crowd, please ask Brian, Jon Hardesty, Billy McKinney, or Chris Como for their assessment of in all their cases, a small set-up change, and the effect on their feeling of dynamic balance. For those that try this fairly, the usual result within 10 balls, is a clear increase in distance/club head speed, and a clear decrease in dispersion.
Please give it a go, and if it fails, please write it up in reasonable detail so I can study, understand, and analyze what went wrong.
Very sincerely,
art
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