Could Brian & Co. Elaborate on "Shake the sugar"?

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The more I think about Brian's "shake the sugar" metaphor, the more impressed I am by it. I'd love to hear more about it.

For instance, how does it effect club path?

What role does it play in discouraging throw away?

What role does it play in discouraging 'chicken winging'?

How does it effect follow through?

What do you think it's major benefits are?

Thanks, in advance. :)
 
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G.O.L.F. said:
The more I think about Brian's "shake the sugar" metaphor, the more impressed I am by it. I'd love to hear more about it.

For instance, how does it effect club path?

What role does it play in discouraging throw away?

What role does it play in discouraging 'chicken winging'?

How does it effect follow through?

What do you think it's major benefits are?

Thanks, in advance. :)
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Depending on where you shake it, it may not affect it at all. All things equal, you may hit down more so the path may go right.

Since it makes the arms and force dump DOWN, you cant be throwing the club away forward so you shouldn't need to chicken wing either.

Should allow you to coast to the follow thru because you are spending all the energy into the ball.

Its major benefit imo is that it discourages over acceleration of the arms in a forward/upward manner.
 
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Kevin Shields said:
Should allow you to coast to the follow thru
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To me, that's one of the remarkable things about it. It plants the seed for more relaxed, on plane, less manipulated arms, thus allowing the arms to roll down the target line, swinging left, ala VJ Trolio's "The Final Missing Piece of Ben Hogan's Secret Puzzle", rather than out to the right.

I really feel Trolio's "The Final Missing Piece", a fantastic work, would be more complete, and accessible, with "Shake the sugar".
 
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Hi guys,new here could someone explain what shaking the sugar is and where i can find info on it.

Cheers
Paul
 
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It's a move that can be observed in strip clubs all over the globe. Some places even have $5 a dance specials :) :)

Warning: Do not attempt to touch the sugar or you will find yourself being dragged out by 2 large fellas.
 
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anybody had more success with "shaking the sugar" vs "dropping the sugar"? Dropping the arms from the top feels really effortless when done at the right time. Shaking the sugar feels more like a drive load action.

One thing that has helped me a little is placing a long thin box parallel to and outside the the delivery line, this acts as my "wall" then I place the curved path of balls on the thru path, which Brian showed in the video as my yellow brick wall. This makes nice little practice station.

I definately have the over fade/slice issues with the driver too and pulls with the irons when I over cook the "carry", but this pattern seems easier on my back than any Ive tried.
 
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fanofSnead said:
anybody had more success with "shaking the sugar" vs "dropping the sugar"? Dropping the arms from the top feels really effortless when done at the right time. Shaking the sugar feels more like a drive load action.
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Personally, i prefer the 'shake', because of it's connection/involvement of the pivot, whereas 'dropping' sounds more like arm movement independent of pivot.

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I definately have the over fade/slice issues with the driver too and pulls with the irons when I over cook the "carry"...
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One thing to keep in mind, even without the 'carry' - the driver, with the added inertia that results from the heads weight and its increased distance from the hands, is more difficult to 'square up'; a good thing to know when comparing driver and iron face impact position.

I remember, years ago, Jeff Maggert suggesting one swing their driver like a 5 iron, good advice on many levels, but, if you swing an iron and a driver with an equal amount of effort - the driver face will be more open at impact than the irons.
 
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fanofSnead said:
anybody had more success with "shaking the sugar" vs "dropping the sugar"? Dropping the arms from the top feels really effortless when done at the right time. Shaking the sugar feels more like a drive load action.

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Doesn't Brian say on NHA that "shake the sugar" is an image he came up with for people who weren't happy with the idea of just letting their arms drop down the wall?
 
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