Couple of ?'s on right forearm takeaway

[shootin4par]

First, when you "go up the wall" like brian says, how do you get clubface rotation?

Second, on the downswing Bman says to swing left, is this because the left arm is not so much across the chest, so you must start swinging left from the top so it gets to the chest in the transition or early in the downswing?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Physics and the turning of your body will automatically cause forearm rotation, unless you inhibit it by making the face "look at the ball."

Hooker's swing too far to the right, so they need to learn how to swing much more left.

 

[vandal]

What if you're a pull-hooker?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

quote:Originally posted by vandal

What if you're a pull-hooker?

You have a path problem, you need to swing more to the right.

 

[vandal]

quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

quote:Originally posted by vandal

What if you're a pull-hooker?

You have a path problem, you need to swing more to the right.

I thought you'd say that.

 

[Damon Lucas]

quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

quote:Originally posted by vandal

What if you're a pull-hooker?

You have a path problem, you need to swing more to the right.

If you're a pull-hooker, your clubface is closed with a path that is less 'to the left' than the clubface. Wouldn't a swing more to the right piece of advice, cause a flip-hook?

Shouldn't he work at getting the clubface more at the inside of the ball first?

 

[Brian Manzella]

"Never Hook Again" works well for any kind of hooker or LIFTer.

Where is the ball going, shootin?

 

[shootin4par]

It is going pretty good, fairly straight and fairly long. I sometimes ask ?'s just for the purpose of understanding, not necesarrily to fix things. I notice when i go "up the wall" I drop my ball flight, which is a good thing, and the right forearm pick up is easier to do. Sometimes I dont go up the wall and then I hit it all over the place snd the take away feels weird.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

quote:Originally posted by Homerson

quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

quote:Originally posted by vandal

What if you're a pull-hooker?

You have a path problem, you need to swing more to the right.

If you're a pull-hooker, your clubface is closed with a path that is less 'to the left' than the clubface. Wouldn't a swing more to the right piece of advice, cause a flip-hook?

Shouldn't he work at getting the clubface more at the inside of the ball first?

It really depends on whether or not his pull hook is:

a real pull hook
a flip-pull hook

If it is a real pull-hook, it is simply a path problem and a right shoulder downplane problem.

If it is a flip-pull hook, well then it's a bunch of other stuff.

 

[c21heel]

I have never understood the right forearm takeaway. For some reason, I can't visualize or feel this in my backswing.

 

[vandal]

quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

quote:Originally posted by Homerson

quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

quote:Originally posted by vandal

What if you're a pull-hooker?

You have a path problem, you need to swing more to the right.

If you're a pull-hooker, your clubface is closed with a path that is less 'to the left' than the clubface. Wouldn't a swing more to the right piece of advice, cause a flip-hook?

Shouldn't he work at getting the clubface more at the inside of the ball first?

It really depends on whether or not his pull hook is:

a real pull hook
a flip-pull hook

If it is a real pull-hook, it is simply a path problem and a right shoulder downplane problem.

If it is a flip-pull hook, well then it's a bunch of other stuff.

The pulls are a path problem, the hook is probably a flipper problem -- combine the two and that's my bad swing.

 

[Brian Manzella]

My video #4: Pivot Wars: STT vs. RFT covers all of this pretty well.

 

[shootin4par]

in doing some mirror work I have noticed that with the right forearm takeawy
1. Shoulder rotation is less
2. Little laid off at top
3. Hands are less centered, come across chest more

Suggestions for why some of this is happening, advice on correcting it?

 

[Brian Manzella]

1. Gonna be
2. Fan less
3. Gonna be