D-plane and draw

[flyers66]

So I hit the range pretty hard the last few days and I have some questions concerning the D-plane and hitting a draw.

1st. I play a fade most of the time(that I learned in NO from Brian) that is pretty consistent off the tee-BUT I need a "go to" draw a few times a round w/ the driver...

With the fade I aim left, swing left and really turn over/release the clubhead through the ball. (I play a Manzella neutral grip)

With the "draw" I try to set up the same way just opposite- but 0ne of Two things seems to happen...I either pull hook it away from my intended target or it is a beautiful looking drive that goes straight down my aim line(which is right of target) never drawing in to the target and ending up in the deep rough or out of play. Long, straight but NEVER drawing back into the target.

Any thought out there? do I need to aggressively rotate my hands through impact as I do with my fade. is it a path issue of face issue or both?

Thanks!

 

[Brian Manzella]

The draw...real world

The problem with hitting a draw with a driver is that you almost always have to ADD LOFT to counteract the loft reduction of the face closed to the path.

So...

To hit a draw with a driver, you need a bit more tilt, a bit more toss, and some kind of a way to get the face closed without losing the tilt and the toss, or the right arm under left arm position.

The arms typically have to swing more across the chest as well.

The key thing is ADDING LOFT and closing the face, not just one or the other.

 

[flyers66]

Thnks Brian,
I remember us discussing this on the range. Do I aim as much right for the draw as I am aiming left for the fade (is the set up for each a mirror image so to speak) or do I aim more right for a draw than I am doing for my fade? Adding loft is done by almost feeling like a little a flip correct?

thnks
Doug

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Try to add more loft by hitting more up on it...works easier and also make sure to hit above the center of the face

 

[tongzilla]

The problem with hitting a draw with a driver is that you almost always have to ADD LOFT to counteract the loft reduction of the face closed to the path.

So...

To hit a draw with a driver, you need a bit more tilt, a bit more toss, and some kind of a way to get the face closed without losing the tilt and the toss, or the right arm under left arm position.

The arms typically have to swing more across the chest as well.

The key thing is ADDING LOFT and closing the face, not just one or the other.

Great point Brian. I think this is why pros intuitively think the fade is more consistent. You don't have to worry about adding loft.