Did i just figure about hinging?!

[Jim Kobylinski]

So i'm playing the course today, had an awesome round. Finally putting some good things to use that Brian showed me. I still think i have a tad reverse pivot and not enough tilt at impact but still a good day none the less.

2 over 74 10/14 fairways 14/18 greens 33 putts. Awesome day for 20mph winds. hard to putt when the wind is pushing it everywhere.

Anyway enough bragging. So for some reason i was hitting the fade all day today. I figured it was probably because i wasn't getting my left wrist flat enough and was introducing some bent in there and getting an open face.

Well after a while i was really bowing it like brian showed me and huh...still had the fade. Was very controllable though and didn't lose much distance at all.

But then something clicked! I wasn't really rolling very hard through impact at all. I'd say maybe half as hard. So i hit my drive on a par 5 and it is a nice long carry with about a 5-10 yard fade and some a small amount of roll. About 270, very pleased.

So i decided to tee up another ball and roll the left arm harder. Aimed a little right/more straight cuz i had a feeling my tiny draw might come in...ball went almost dead straight with a lot more roll and passed up my other by almost 20 yards!

So did i just figure out hinging?

My "hard roll" was "full roll" or horizontal hinging
My "half hard roll" was "half roll" or angled hinging

I never reverse roll but if my logic follows that would be vertical hinging right?

 

[cdog]

Reverse roll is verticle hinging.
Ok, here is the thing, if you are swinging and if the physics of the club causes a horizontal hinge , then why would you have to physically roll on your own? If you ( or me or anybody)have to physically make the roll, and it doesnt happen on its own (but i know it can), then on those days we cant find it, its a struggle.
I know if i swing 1 handed, using the lead arm, then the roll happens on its own if i complelely relax, perfect horizontal hinge, I'm sure i am doing something that causes me to lose it, and have to return to hitting to get some consistancy.

 

[MizunoJoe]

You have discovered what Johnny Miller has talked about for years, but doesn't explain in good enough detail. A full left arm roll will give you a big power increase through better compression. Now learn to INCREASE the arch in the left wrist as you roll it through impact in order to make the pulley as SMALL as possible. I call this "downarching" - analogous to "downcocking". You do this by making the left forearm/wristbone outrun the left hand through impact.

This was Hogan's secret - he went from a cupped left wrist at the top to arched through impact. However, I recommend going from flat or slightly arched at the top to more arched through impact.

 

[njmp2]

Jim, Good job having more "roll." But I think you were enjoying a swivel more than a horizontal hinge. A few points: An angled hinge (AH) is NOT an incomplete horizontal hinge (HH). A HH is not an over active AH, either. The hands must be set to be perpendicular to its type of plane. Swinging has the most active hinging even with Centrifigual Force coming into play because the hands still uncock, hinge then swivel. AH is like no hinge at all, uncock, push, swivel.

Got to run, sorry its incomplete.

 

[Ringer]

Jim... you squared up the clubface with your forearms. Good for you. Now arch that wrist through impact and watch the trajectory go lower with more spin.

 

[mgjordan]

I think you were probably learning to use a proper swivel. Hinging has more to do with rhythm than physically rolling the left wrist.

 

[njmp2]

quote:Originally posted by Ringer

Jim... you squared up the clubface with your forearms. Good for you. Now arch that wrist through impact and watch the trajectory go lower with more spin.

but still hasn't educated the hands to execute hinge action, Steve. Hinge action controls the ball that controls the game. But he will soon.

 

[bts]

Yeah, you also have the right TIMING (based on the magnitude of impact), which causes the ball to stay on the clubface longer and bounce harder (resist against impact deceleration or the counterforce from ball reformation) off the clubface, in combined with the hinge action.