Dominate arm in the backswing???

[vjsinger]

Okay...So I've been working to perfect my pivot for about a month now..I think I have ingrained a very solid pivot(step on right foot,rotate around my shirtag,whatever..) So I started working with how the arms work in the backswing and I have noticed some interesting feels for me..let me try to explain. I am trying to develop a Soft Draw Pattern...or something very similar,something very orthodox,as Brian would say. I'm playing around with using the right arm to lift the club to the top versus the left arm lifting it to the top. I should tell you I am right handed and swing from the right side..okay. When I go to the top using my dominant hand(right) I feel that my right sholuder has a little bit of tension in it as it goes up a little, its like if I were sitting and did a shoulder shrug with only the right shoulder. If I use my left hand to guide the club and think about relaxing my shoulders the right shoulder shrug doesn't happen. I have a couple questions regarding this.1. Does this even matter,is the tension expected..am I just being too anal?
2. If it does matter..will the "shrug" effect Downswing plane...what does this effect if anything???etc.

Thanks for your time.

VJ

 

[begolfpro]

Don't think just swing

Does this even matter,is the tension expected..am I just being too anal?
VJ

Don't sabotage your swing by thinking about it! The SWING 'happens' in less than 2s...just swing don't think!

If in doubt read this article that was posted on the BBC website today

BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Edinburgh, East and Fife | Overthinking 'disrupts golf putt'

Pick out your target and swing away...do not think about technique

 

[Putt One]

But do pick out a better barber. ;>)

 

[begolfpro]

or wear a cap

 

[Kevin Shields]

Your left arm is inert the entire time

 

[vjsinger]

Your left arm is inert the entire time

So the right arm is the lead on this....just a question as to why it matters which arm I use?? Why is the left arm lacking the power to move or sluggish??

 

[Kevin Shields]

So the right arm is the lead on this....just a question as to why it matters which arm I use?? Why is the left arm lacking the power to move or sluggish??

The left arm is largely moved by the chest and the straightening right arm.

 

[jenhaoyen]

So the right arm is the lead on this....just a question as to why it matters which arm I use?? Why is the left arm lacking the power to move or sluggish??

i feel like if you use your left arm, you are gonna use your left arm to pull down more (more like a fade). Right arm, toss like a draw swing.

 

[vjsinger]

The left arm is largely moved by the chest and the straightening right arm.

Straightening Right arm on the Backswing....The Right arm folds on the Backswing...Im Confused

 

[Kevin Shields]

I was referring to the downswing.

 

[Bigwill]

Your left arm is inert the entire time

I have a ton of trouble consistently getting the hang of this in my swing.
Any tips or suggestions? I always end up going back to pulling with my left hand.

 

[vjsinger]

I was referring to the downswing.

So, it doesnt matter which arm I use in the backswing??

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

i feel like if you use your left arm, you are gonna use your left arm to pull down more (more like a fade). Right arm, toss like a draw swing.

Ask jbrunk about the one armed (left arm btw) wedge shot i hit in front of him in Louisivlle that drawed and went about 70 yards. Pulling with your left or tossing with your right isn't a determining factor in ball flight.

 

[jenhaoyen]

Ask jbrunk about the one armed (left arm btw) wedge shot i hit in front of him in Louisivlle that drawed and went about 70 yards. Pulling with your left or tossing with your right isn't a determining factor in ball flight.

what does then? Coming from inside? It's just easier for me if i use my right hand, using left hand makes me pull my body out of the position.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

The point is that maybe it is for you but it isn't universal; if i had to guess you pulling makes you come in slightly above plane and you are more open to target at impact slightly above plane and fade it

 

[pecky987]

the "shrug" you describe when you make the backswing with your right arm is a higher right shoulder and a resulting steepershoulder turn. if you do it more with your left arm you'll en up with a fatter shouler turn, which i guess at this point is better for you

 

[vjsinger]

the "shrug" you describe when you make the backswing with your right arm is a higher right shoulder and a resulting steepershoulder turn. if you do it more with your left arm you'll en up with a fatter shouler turn, which i guess at this point is better for you

If I think about it Im not sure the "shrug" has anything to do with the angle/pitch of my shoulder turn. I can sit down in a chair and shrug my shoulder without turning it or making any sort of turn. It is an independent lift..involving the shoulder girdle..I think, any doctors in the house. Maybe I do it to "support" the club at the top of the backswing better I don't know....without seeing me on video,which I haven't even done for myself yet, it is probably just too hard to talk about. Therefore I'll just chalk it up as one of my quirks and move on. Thanks to all who have replied.

 

[pecky987]

If I think about it Im not sure the "shrug" has anything to do with the angle/pitch of my shoulder turn. I can sit down in a chair and shrug my shoulder without turning it or making any sort of turn. It is an independent lift..involving the shoulder girdle..I think, any doctors in the house. Maybe I do it to "support" the club at the top of the backswing better I don't know....without seeing me on video,which I haven't even done for myself yet, it is probably just too hard to talk about. Therefore I'll just chalk it up as one of my quirks and move on. Thanks to all who have replied.

im not talkin about your shoulder turn. if you sit in your chair and lift your right shoulder, the tilt of your shoulders has increased. if you now turn to face your right, to immatate a backswing position, your shoulder turn is now what we would regard as a fairly steep turn. now, still facing the right, drop your right shoulder. this is now a pretty flat shoulder turn.

if you feel like you go to the top with your right arm your right shoulder will raise a little. i think this is what you are describing

 

[vjsinger]

im not talkin about your shoulder turn. if you sit in your chair and lift your right shoulder, the tilt of your shoulders has increased. if you now turn to face your right, to immatate a backswing position, your shoulder turn is now what we would regard as a fairly steep turn. now, still facing the right, drop your right shoulder. this is now a pretty flat shoulder turn.

if you feel like you go to the top with your right arm your right shoulder will raise a little. i think this is what you are describing

Yep..Thats what Im describing exactly. So, back to the original question Does it matter???What effects would this "steep" shoulder turn have on a swing...Maybe if you pointed me to some players that have steep shoulder turns I can analyze and that may help me?? By the way, thanks for taking the time I appreciate it very much.