I have fallen in love with my Dansani water bottle. At classic adress, I waggle it back, folding my right wrist, left goes flat. I then start my backswing, letting all water go to the bottom of the bottle. I then store x3 as far as i can downplane. What i find is I can't flip my right wrist without swinging over the plane line. For me to dump the water at the ball, my feel is an uncocking flat wrist that is going to the arched position, u right wrist remaining bent, and both arms going straight past the ball. Brian, is this what Doyle is talking about?