thanks for the reminder. . . .
I have the NHA video and even watched it a couple times. Well, I went back and this time I paid attention. The feeling of not turning my shoulders has really worked well in getting above the plane. The one thing I can't seem to bring myself to do is "consciously" slide the hips instead of turning. But then I'm also a recovering swayer. But I guess that's a whole 'nother webgroup. . . .