Drills to ensure a full shoulder turn on the backswing
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jeffgladchun
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Bump, I'd like to hear this as well!
lookingtolearn
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"Crossing guard stripe" for a drill
"Left shoulder over right knee" for a swing thought
"Left shoulder over right knee" for a swing thought
Chip Putterman
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Pretend to hit the Ball with your left shoulder on the backswing.
Jared Willerson
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Just make one...that is a start. Too often, we think we are making a shoulder turn but in reality are just lifting our arms. Making sure your arms are as deep as possible while getting your shoulders as steep as possible really exaggerates the feeling of a good turn.
tank
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Here is a LINK to an excellent lesson on how to move the shoulders from (GSED) Chuck Cook.
braveheart
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One that I find works pretty good is turn your right shoulder behind your neck. Helps with a smoother takeaway.
Most golfers are not flexible enough to get a full shoulder turn without maximising their hip turn.
My opinion of the X-Factor concept is not high.Don't be afraid to get a full hip turn to maximise a full shoulder turn.Don't try to restrict the hip turn.Doing so will restrict the shoulder turn unless you are a circus contortionist.
99.99% of touring pros go 90 degrees and way beyond or is that just a coincidence?
Nuff said.
I believe you actually introduce complications if you don't turn them sufficiently.
Hard to disagree. I just spent a whole summer driving my legs laterally to compensate for a shoulder turn that (unbeknownst to me) had vanished.
The light came on when I realized that the pivot was a whole body affair; not just a weight/pressure shift of the lower body.
TURNING everything to the top allows me to basically just turn back to start the gyroscope down and let gravity do its work.
The light came on when I realized that the pivot was a whole body affair; not just a weight/pressure shift of the lower body.
TURNING everything to the top allows me to basically just turn back to start the gyroscope down and let gravity do its work.
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Nothing wrong with going past 90 (it is, after all, simply turning your chest back a bit more), if you have good reason for it...
But remember you will have to compensate with a well timed and sequenced downswing......some people will find it hard to "collect" everything correctly..
Nothing wrong with going past 90 (it is, after all, simply turning your chest back a bit more), if you have good reason for it...
But remember you will have to compensate with a well timed and sequenced downswing......some people will find it hard to "collect" everything correctly..
Thanks I figured it would be harder to time the downswing, just wanted informed opinions whether I should restrict my shoulder turn & get good at 90 before complicating things. I can control it by timing my arm lift to be quicker.
Thanks for the replies guys,
Rixter
Brian Manzella
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How to make a full shoulder turn...
To make sure you make ENOUGH shoulder turn, you have to know what enough for you is.
Here are some things to consider:
Here are some basic reasons why folks DON'T turn enough:
Here are some ideas to get you to make a fuller shoulder turn:
To make sure you make ENOUGH shoulder turn, you have to know what enough for you is.
Here are some things to consider:
1. A draw pattern needs more shoulder turn turn than a fade pattern
2. A Driver needs ore shoulder turn turn than a 7-iron
3. A steeper shoulder turn need more TURN than a flatter shoulder turn
2. A Driver needs ore shoulder turn turn than a 7-iron
3. A steeper shoulder turn need more TURN than a flatter shoulder turn
Here are some basic reasons why folks DON'T turn enough:
1. Having the hips open and tilted left at address
2. Forward leaning spine at address
3. Adding flex to the right leg on the backswing
4. Too much tailbone travel (away from the target) on the backswing
5. Trying to restrict the hips from turning on the backswing
2. Forward leaning spine at address
3. Adding flex to the right leg on the backswing
4. Too much tailbone travel (away from the target) on the backswing
5. Trying to restrict the hips from turning on the backswing
Here are some ideas to get you to make a fuller shoulder turn:
1. Get set-up dead square
2. Turn your core EARLY
3. Have your hands PULL YOU to the top THROUGH the point of resistance
4. Allow yourself more time to make a backswing
5. Do the opposite of the things in the second list (above).
2. Turn your core EARLY
3. Have your hands PULL YOU to the top THROUGH the point of resistance
4. Allow yourself more time to make a backswing
5. Do the opposite of the things in the second list (above).
rogerdodger
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Number 3 on last list, could you explain?
Brian Manzella
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PULL YOU to the top.
No matter whether you lead with the pivot in the takeaway, or with the hands, the hands should finish off the backswing by REACHING for their desired location, and PULLING the rest of the arms and pivot with them.
No matter whether you lead with the pivot in the takeaway, or with the hands, the hands should finish off the backswing by REACHING for their desired location, and PULLING the rest of the arms and pivot with them.
rogerdodger
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Great swing concept, thanks Brian, makes sense but I am always amazed when I hear something new like this. I imagine the point is that if you stop pulling to the top, you will get laid off more easily.
birdie_man
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