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mgjordan

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Here are some stills from the video I posted:

[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing1.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing2.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing3.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing4.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing5.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing6.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing7.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing8.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing9.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing10.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing11.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing12.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing13.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing14.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing15.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.izabel.info/uploads/driverswing16.jpg[/image]
 
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Archie Swivel

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Looks to me like a good impact position and a good rollover on follow through. You cross the line at the top of the backswing- do you feel like you have adequate 'extensor action'? What do you think about having that right elbow a little higher. Do you slightly bend that left wrist at the top (right wrist does not look bent at top)? Hard to tell in 2-D. Just some thoughts. Good tempo on video.

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EdZ

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Very nice swing... looks to me like you get a small amount of 'roll' in the hands on the backswing, which is why you are a touch flat and across the line. You stand up a touch with the spine angle and recover very, very well. I'm guessing you tend to slide the hips a bit too much on your misses?

Your takeaway looks great until around hip high, which is where I see the roll. Keeping the club more 'out in front' of you, and then getting the hands 'under' the shaft at hip high would help you not have to roll so hard coming through and would allow even more extension through with the right (really feeling that right shoulder move under your chin as the right stretches outward).

I fight a similar problem in my takeaway, and find split grip drills, and pre-set drills are good ways to feel the club staying more in front, and get the hands 'under' more easily.

I know Brian and others may disagree, but most of the spine angle change (as slight as it is), would be solved by a more stable right knee, you look plenty flexible enough.

I can see you have great balance... (I can't see your video on my machine at the moment).

Very solid swing.
 
mgjordan

mgjordan

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quote:Originally posted by Archie Swivel

Looks to me like a good impact position and a good rollover on follow through. You cross the line at the top of the backswing- do you feel like you have adequate 'extensor action'? What do you think about having that right elbow a little higher. Do you slightly bend that left wrist at the top (right wrist does not look bent at top)? Hard to tell in 2-D. Just some thoughts. Good tempo on video.

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I feel like I could have more extensor action. I collapse the left arm just a little bit which causes me to get long. I wish picture 5 was the top of my backswing. What do you mean by the right elbow a little higher? At the top? I do have a slight left hand cup, but I try to keep the face pretty square and the left flat.
 
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mgjordan

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quote:Originally posted by EdZ

Very nice swing... looks to me like you get a small amount of 'roll' in the hands on the backswing, which is why you are a touch flat and across the line. You stand up a touch with the spine angle and recover very, very well. I'm guessing you tend to slide the hips a bit too much on your misses?

Your takeaway looks great until around hip high, which is where I see the roll. Keeping the club more 'out in front' of you, and then getting the hands 'under' the shaft at hip high would help you not have to roll so hard coming through and would allow even more extension through with the right (really feeling that right shoulder move under your chin as the right stretches outward).

I fight a similar problem in my takeaway, and find split grip drills, and pre-set drills are good ways to feel the club staying more in front, and get the hands 'under' more easily.

I know Brian and others may disagree, but most of the spine angle change (as slight as it is), would be solved by a more stable right knee, you look plenty flexible enough.

I can see you have great balance... (I can't see your video on my machine at the moment).

Very solid swing.
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I think I slide my hips too much on every swing. If you notice in pics 9 and 10, my right elbow get stuck behind my right hip. Pic 9 is good, but I can't clear the right elbow from pic 9 to pic 10 and it causes my hands to be further back at impact than I would like. This makes me release a little bit earlier than I would like. It is evident from face on that my left wrist is flat at and through the shot, but my hands aren't as far ahead as I would like. You are right about rolling the club a little. When I concentrate on really keeping the right palm facing the ground or away from the ball going back I keep the club a lot more square and I shorten my swing a bit. The right knee is something I have been working on. I just can't get myself to keep it flexed when I'm not thinking about it. I have to feel like I squat down going back to keep it in it's angle.
 
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Triad

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Very nice post MG. Great looking swing. I'll bet you hit it a long way. If you want critique from a hack here it is <g>

Shaft seems just a touch flat going back (see frame 4 where it points well outside the target line) and a touch steep on the way down (frame 8) but much better by then. You have found the plane very well. Plus, camera angles and the frames chosen can cause illusions. So, no real problems.

None of that matters because you have great lag and by impact position you look very solid (to me). Love the forearm/clubshaft position.

The only thing that bothers me is your right foot. It seems to hang back far too long, like you are not releasing your right side through the ball completley. Just seems like your right knee needs to be pulled/driven down the target a bit more. Go ahead and let your foot get pulled up onto that right toe. Release your whole right side through the ball, including that right knee. Wish I had your swing.

JMHO. Would love any contrasting views on the subject of right knee action.

VJ:

http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/80095/1/2785261


Sustain the Lag
 
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Archie Swivel

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Brian has said, "Take it UP enough to hit down and IN enough to hit the inside-aft quadrant and FAR enough to wind up enough to hit it with the proper UMPH!" He also advocates a flat left wrist, a bent right wrist and the left thumb supporting the clubshaft at the top. With my swing (see video I just posted) in order to have a bent right wrist and flat left wrist with left thumb supporting the shaft at the top, I have to take it "UP" a little higher than you do, which means holding the right elbow higher, but not letting it 'fly.' Are your misses hooks?

I'm not speaking for Brian here. He may have a stroke when he sees the swing I posted!
 
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mgjordan: loving some of the release/impact positions you are getting into...

About the backswing, it seems you keep "the triangle" that leadbetter etc.. talk about, IMO the takeaway that Homer prescribes is far simpler and more efficient. I think you've been around TGM forums for a while, so you would have seen ro/Chuck/Yoda talk about the clapping motion in the backswing? Take address without a club, arms hanging straight down with hands together like you are praying. Now simply take right hand up to right shoulder height and then clap back into the left...

Very simple and effective, take it straight up turned shoulder and back.

What is your avg score?
 
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mgjordan

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Densikat,
I don't play that much anymore, but I usually shoot anywhere from 70-77. It takes me awhile to get comfortable with my swing and short game when I play (sometimes it is a week or 2 between rounds) and I might start off shooting a 42 and follow it up with a 33. I would say I have been averaging 75.
 
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TYORKE1

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DENSIKAT, can you go into the tgm backswing some more and possibly discuss what the proper feeling should be from start to the top, I enjoy the tgm but still can't understand the terminology, TIM
 
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EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by mgjordan

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

Very nice swing... looks to me like you get a small amount of 'roll' in the hands on the backswing, which is why you are a touch flat and across the line. You stand up a touch with the spine angle and recover very, very well. I'm guessing you tend to slide the hips a bit too much on your misses?

Your takeaway looks great until around hip high, which is where I see the roll. Keeping the club more 'out in front' of you, and then getting the hands 'under' the shaft at hip high would help you not have to roll so hard coming through and would allow even more extension through with the right (really feeling that right shoulder move under your chin as the right stretches outward).

I fight a similar problem in my takeaway, and find split grip drills, and pre-set drills are good ways to feel the club staying more in front, and get the hands 'under' more easily.

I know Brian and others may disagree, but most of the spine angle change (as slight as it is), would be solved by a more stable right knee, you look plenty flexible enough.

I can see you have great balance... (I can't see your video on my machine at the moment).

Very solid swing.
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I think I slide my hips too much on every swing. If you notice in pics 9 and 10, my right elbow get stuck behind my right hip. Pic 9 is good, but I can't clear the right elbow from pic 9 to pic 10 and it causes my hands to be further back at impact than I would like. This makes me release a little bit earlier than I would like. It is evident from face on that my left wrist is flat at and through the shot, but my hands aren't as far ahead as I would like. You are right about rolling the club a little. When I concentrate on really keeping the right palm facing the ground or away from the ball going back I keep the club a lot more square and I shorten my swing a bit. The right knee is something I have been working on. I just can't get myself to keep it flexed when I'm not thinking about it. I have to feel like I squat down going back to keep it in it's angle.
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If you can borrow one, try a swing jacket for a bit - not hitting balls, and working mainly on the backswing - it will show you how the takeaway is less of a roll, and make that right arm extension through the ball a very, very easy position to get. Same goes for using that right knee - fire it at the inside back corner, and then take that feel back to your takeaway, hip to hip swings - split grip drills - think hockey, but keep those elbows pointing down - extension out to first base

It may also help for you to feel the butt of the club moving straight back, straight through, from hip to hip, clubhead outside the hands, another 'anti roll' feel, at hip high, think 'up' and 'under the shaft'

Another great aid for that feel is the momentus strength trainer, with the weight above and below the hands, check out the 6.5 lb, and if you can use both it, and the swing jacket at the same time, all the better.... don't get too caught up in the through swing with the jacket on though, only the backswing, it isn't a good through swing aid IMO
 
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densikat

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quote:Originally posted by TYORKE1

DENSIKAT, can you go into the tgm backswing some more and possibly discuss what the proper feeling should be from start to the top, I enjoy the tgm but still can't understand the terminology, TIM
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The clapping drill should give you the right feel. The right forearm folds and lifts, there is no low and slow.

Too quote someone who is very well versed in TGM:

"Pick the Club straight up the three-dimensional Plane of the Right Forearm." That's right: pick it up, just like it was a dead weight. The club will not go back low!"
 
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bbss

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I am trying to understand the shifting concept and have difficulty understanding the zero shift. For me, it is very nature to have the club back along the club plane then upto the turned shoulder and down to the club plan for impact. It seems very nature to me but is confused as everyone said any shifts will require compensation. My swing plane seems similar to yours. In order to understand the shifting concept correctly, could someone confirm/anaylsis your swing? Is it a double shifts too?

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matt

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Look at your clubface after impact...see how's it really turned over after it comes out of your left shoulder?

Do you used the Turned Left Wrist of the 10-2-D Strong Double Action grip? Or is your left wrist more "vertical"?
 
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DDL

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Everything looks fine to me, especially if you are shooting low to mid 70s. Minor point ala TGM.....perhaps sooner right arm bend so the plane shift isn't as pronounced, and that could perhaps help with maintaining spine angle.

Only major problem I see is those pants.No need to see those legs.:)
 
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Leftside

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There are people that would "Kill" for that swing!
Couple that swing with some Tommy Armour, "Course Saavy" and you're low single digit.
Of course if you're already low single digit and in search of scratch, disregard this post :)
 
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6bee1dee

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quote:Originally posted by Leftside

There are people that would "Kill" for that swing!
Couple that swing with some Tommy Armour, "Course Saavy" and you're low single digit.
Of course if you're already low single digit and in search of scratch, disregard this post :)
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His swing looks diffferent today, Take away is now a Take-Up. He drives it a mile.
 
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