E.Molinari on Trackman vs Flightscope

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He tweeted:

@DodoMolinari: @TrackManGolf beats @flightscopegolf for accuracy and consistency all day! A radar giving wrong infos, even if once in a while, is not good!

@DodoMolinari: @AndrewRiceGolf @TrackManGolf I also tested both Andrew, both side by side and one after the other. There is no comparison between the two.
 

Kevin Shields

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I hate to even touch this subject but I was on Flightscope a lot today and I got all sorts of funny numbers. Admittedly, I need to spend more time but as of now I wouldn't trust it in a lesson.
 
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@DodoMolinari: I'd like to thank @OrangeHaterade for sponsoring my latest tweets! #IsItInYou




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Do you remember Mickelson talking trash about Tiger's clubs? It was a little before Tiger came back from an injury and whipped his ass some more, and a bit before Hefty switched endorsement deals in Ryder Cup week to play clubs that must have been even more awesomer (though still not awesome enough).

Well, that's how much store I would put by what Signor Molinari tweets on this subject.
 

Brian Manzella

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Do you remember Mickelson talking trash about Tiger's clubs? It was a little before Tiger came back from an injury and whipped his ass some more, and a bit before Hefty switched endorsement deals in Ryder Cup week to play clubs that must have been even more awesomer (though still not awesome enough).

Well, that's how much store I would put by what Signor Molinari tweets on this subject.

Well, that is certainly conformation that folks would believe a non-famous person more than a famous one if they switched to a different product.
 
Well, that is certainly conformation that folks would believe a non-famous person more than a famous one if they switched to a different product.

That doesn't confirm anything, Brian. You are so off on this issue, it's not even funny. You would get fired at Nike or Titleist in the first few weeks.
 

Kevin Shields

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Do you remember Mickelson talking trash about Tiger's clubs? It was a little before Tiger came back from an injury and whipped his ass some more, and a bit before Hefty switched endorsement deals in Ryder Cup week to play clubs that must have been even more awesomer (though still not awesome enough).

Well, that's how much store I would put by what Signor Molinari tweets on this subject.

Why doesn't a tour pros opinion mean anything in comparing radar accuracy?
 
Why doesn't a tour pros opinion mean anything in comparing radar accuracy?

I didn't say that. If you posted on here that you had tested both extensively, and that you were satisfied that there were clear differences in performance, I'd give that credence even though you're neither a tour pro nor a Princeton graduate engineer.

But in this case, how would you tell the difference between an honest opinion, an impartial opinion, an informed opinion, an endorsement and guerrilla marketing?
 
I've tested both systems, practiced on both systems and taught using both systems. They are both great, they are both fantastic teaching and fitting tools and they both have limitations.
 

btp

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I'd like to know how different they really are. I plan on purchasing a Trackman or X2 next year. Anybody have a nice list of pros and cons for each system?
 
My problem with this whole debate for a while has been that there is no known standard that we are basing accuracy off of. I’ve got a couple “high tech” distance measuring tools. They’re great, they save time, and are usually spot on accurate… but they can and do get “off”. No problem, I’ll just pull out the measuring tape or 4’ ruler or calibration stick and check/recalibrate. To my knowledge we can’t do that with these LMs. I don’t know if it’s even possible, but I’d like to see a robotic (Pingman, Iron Byron) standard setup. Have the robot swing with a zero face, zero path, zero attack angle, specific loft, etc., and then see what these machines record. And then calibrate the machines accordingly.

I don’t think it’s that great of a test to randomly place two competing LMs side-by-side and then deem one or the other “accurate” because they do not have identical (or near identical) numbers. I have witnessed samples of both brands clearly not working correctly. There are reviews online that claim the two monitors produce near identical numbers, and then there are reviews that claim otherwise. But in either case, they are comparing a single unit against a single unit, which is hardly a valid sampling. I would like to see 20-30 of each freshly unpackaged and then compared by an unbiased 3rd party, but I won’t be holding my breath on that one.

One review that I haven’t seen is a side-by-side of the same brand monitor. I would be willing to bet that more times than not two of the “same” monitors will not produce the same numbers. I wonder which would get the nod for being accurate. I could be way off on this, but I’d like to see how identical a row of twins actually are.

I like the debate. I like that there are two major players competing in this market. I like that each is striving and investing to be as accurate as possible. I like that they are continuing to develop better products. And I really like that the guys passing out information on this forum (and at Mike’s) are at the forefront of this technology… both in understanding and hours logged. I’m fortunate to have one of these dogs in the fight, but regardless of whether it gets the blue ribbon or red ribbon, it’s had a significant influence on my game and the understanding and improvement of my own swing.
 
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One review that I haven’t seen is a side-by-side of the same brand monitor. I would be willing to bet that more times than not two of the “same” monitors will not produce the same numbers. I wonder which would get the nod for being accurate. I could be way off on this, but I’d like to see how identical a row of twins actually are.

That sounds like a good idea to me...
 
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