Early angle release

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I was practicing today trying to hold the angle (between the club and hands) in the downswing and more lag. I always believe I release the angle too soon, when my left arm goes back to parallel with the right thigh, the angle is less than 90 degree, where if watch the pro, the angle is still greater than 90. An instructor came by and offered these advise which I mostly disagree:

(I am playing with a 7 iron).

1. Setup: I am using the standard address position with the club in the middel position. I can feel a lag on the backswing in doing this. He said I have added loft to the club and becomes a 8 iron, head too far behind. His advise is to set the hands more in front.

2. Stance: I used to have a wider stance, shoulder width such that I can do the preturn hip when going back. He said my is too wide, the arms are too far away from the body and too back when coming down. He also said that my left knee goes back too much. At the top my club is slightly under parallel. He said I create too much lag, such that when coming down, my body move forward in one direction where the club is moving in another direction to catch up, therefore it release the angle. I always have this problem, at parallel position in the downswing, my arms are still outside, vs would like to bring into the middle position of the body.

Your advise please.
 

hue

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quote:Originally posted by tgmer

I was practicing today trying to hold the angle (between the club and hands) in the downswing and more lag.
Can you explain what you mean by "holding the angle"? I think you have got the" wrong idea about lag. Hands lead ,club follows . "Holding the angle as such is an artificial imitatation.
 
When you get to the top with power loaded, i.e. right wrist bent and left wrist cocked, the shaft is say 90 degree with the left arm, as Brian mention in the lag article, when coming down, in fact this angle may be increased even more, as you come down, this angle should be retained in order to store the power. However, I have this angle start releasing before the parallel position and the left arm not moving as close to the centre of my body, maybe due to not enough pivot?

Thanks.
 
Holding the angle ISN'T clubhead lag. Holding the angle as long as possible isn't necessary as long as the club leans forward at impact and you have clubhead lag. I can pose a position with the angle held as much as possible, but I won't have clubhead lag because the clubshaft isn't bending.
 

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Holding the angle is accumulator lag! You also have pivot lag along wiht the aforementioned clubhead lag!


Todd
 
tgm,

I think that getting the hands to the center of your body with the shaft parallel to the ground, although an enviable position, is maybe asking for too much. Of all the Tour players I've seen in photos, only Charles Howell gets close to that standard. Most have the hands just even with the outer edge of the right thigh when the shaft is parallel to the ground.
 

Brian Manzella

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I have NO PROBLEM getting a student to MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY if I want them to do that.

NONE.

That's what TEACHING IS...not reading, not reciting...TEACHING.
 
quote:Originally posted by brianman

I have NO PROBLEM getting a student to MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY if I want them to do that.

NONE.

That's what TEACHING IS...not reading, not reciting...TEACHING.

Does who can TEACH, does who can't POST [:p]

Brian, I see Ben teach max trigger delay on my tape to everyone, young and old...and they all do it.
 

Burner

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quote:Originally posted by hue

quote:Originally posted by tgmer

I was practicing today trying to hold the angle (between the club and hands) in the downswing and more lag.
Can you explain what you mean by "holding the angle"? I think you have got the" wrong idea about lag. Hands lead ,club follows . "Holding the angle as such is an artificial imitatation.

See Brady's new pictures, No.4 of Hogan for lag in action.
 
What does impact look like? Flat left wrist, bent right wrist, on plane? If not then you have clubhead throwaway. Why? Overacceleration, quitting, trying to hit the back of the ball, trying to move the club in a straight line instead of an on plane arc.........
It is impact conditions that are important even if the (release) is early. If impact is not correct, then you have to look at why.
 

hue

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

I have NO PROBLEM getting a student to MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY if I want them to do that.

NONE.

That's what TEACHING IS...not reading, not reciting...TEACHING.
Brian: How do you go about teaching MAXIMUMUM TRIGGER DELAY? I have been working on this by getting the trail shoulder lower going into impact and getting the trail elbow into as deep a pitch position as I can with hands leading the club. Like both Ben Doyle's and your videos demonstrate. I don't think of holding the angle but getting a later release.
 
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