Ernie Els

[eric54]

Was sad to see Ernie miss the cut at the weekend. Love watching him play but something is missing at the moment. Brian, what can you see in his swing that is possibly causing his struggles at the moment?

 

[Brian Manzella]

Watched him at the Masters.

Way too flat on the downswing and below plane.

Sad, really.

 

[tongzilla]

Brian, got any video footage?

 

[echoes77]

Watched him at the Masters.

Way too flat on the downswing and below plane.

Sad, really.

Brian (or Jim K. or Mike F), can you explain this? I am not sure how a too flat swing is below plane. It seems counterintuitive...thanks.

 

[bcoak]

Watched him at the Masters.

Way too flat on the downswing and below plane.

Sad, really.

He looks to be pretty upright on the backswing too. The erlyish type wristcock. How does he flatten it too much from that position.?
Happy Easter all.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Brian (or Jim K. or Mike F), can you explain this? I am not sure how a too flat swing is below plane. It seems counterintuitive...thanks.

Els' downswing comes down the TSP, Brian is saying that he is too flat meaning he is under that plane which is too flat FOR HIM.

 

[magic43]

What's wrong with El's swing? Can someone say Ledbetter?

 

[tongzilla]

Els' downswing comes down the TSP, Brian is saying that he is too flat meaning he is under that plane which is too flat FOR HIM.

WHY is it too flat for him?

Ernie used to be even FLATTER when he came on to the professional scene. If he wasn't too flat then, why is he too flat now even though he's on a steeper plane?

 

[mpro]

I'd really like to know why as well. I personally would like to see him get even flatter and more towards where he used to be when he could find it after he hit it. A little no roll move through impact might not hurt a bit as well.

 

[Jared Willerson]

We're talking about the downswing right? In his early days he went back flatter and came down steeper, now he has it the other way around, harder to keep the timing IMO.

 

[tongzilla]

We're talking about the downswing right? In his early days he went back flatter and came down steeper, now he has it the other way around, harder to keep the timing IMO.

Came down steeper? I have some old swings of ernie (down the line view) with a VERY OBVIOUS shift from during start down onto the elbow plane. He does not do this anymore.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRVumOGT97Y

 

[Jared Willerson]

What plane are we talking about Els being below? Elbow or TSP. I always thought he came down a little steeper than the elbow plane and took it back below the turned shoulder, but from your video, I see that I am wrong.

His swing was pure then, doesn't look anything like that now.

 

[Bigwill]

Came down steeper? I have some old swings of ernie (down the line view) with a VERY OBVIOUS shift from during start down onto the elbow plane. He does not do this anymore.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRVumOGT97Y

In recent years, he hasn't swung like this. I've seen seen the same downswing-outside-of-the-backswing move that these guys are referring to. I don't know if swinging the way he was in this video was problemmatic for him, leading to the change, but I personally like this older action a lot better than what he's been doing the last several years (aesthetically speaking, that is).