Just for the record I posted this thread not to poop on Trackman or anything...
Just to discuss.
I think no doubt a feel player can use Trackman.
You can tweak the swing in practice to learn what you need to. (and then build skills and habits)
Can then carry on executing by feel.
No matter how feel oriented we are we are all capable of using logic and conscious thought. (left brain)
I have just recently discovered I have neglected feel, intuition, emotion thus I wanted to learn more by posing some questions.
To me, feel is what I use in determining how hard to hit the ball in short game shots. I never had any success with Pelz clock method, and am much better in just looking at the hole, look where I want the ball to land, and let my feel hit it there.
As far as in the long game, I think of feel as when I'm trying to shape shots. I know I could analyse my shot and say I need to manipulate my D-plane by so and so many degrees to get a 10 yard draw or fade on a shot, but it's easier for me to picture the shape I need, let my hands try to feel what they need to do, and let them do it. My feel also tells me what I did on a shot, whether or not I hit the sweetspot, or hit it thin, on the toe, etc. Having clubs that transmit feel is important.
To me, feel is important because I always have it with me, and it's legal to use in a round of golf. Whereas carrying a Trackman around with you all the time is a little cumbersome, and, as far as I know, illegal to use during a legitimate round of golf.
Makes me wonder, at those tour events where Trackman is setup on certain tees, are the players or their caddies allowed to see the results during their round? I wouldn't think so.
John
Good post and thank you John.
birdie_man
What do you mean? Before most all shots I visualize and try to feel my way into a shot, then make it happen.
However that does not mean of course that I am playing wildly different strokes. I have my stock pattern and am playing that, with an occasional fade thrown in.
I do mean exactly what you described dbl. Err I mean it does qualify.
It is not so conscious and logical as it is emotional and feeling-based.
For your second part I am with you.
You can still no doubt use your conscious mind at times and to build and then call upon skills (conscious) and habits. (things you do without conscious direction) As well as planning, imaging/visualizing (all things "pictured"), and just general thinking, of course.
All players have some amount of conscious thought. I do think it's impossible to think about nothing.
Everyone is a "feel" player and for those that occasionally lurk on this site, and still don't believe TRACKMAN can help someone is looney.
I agree on the loonies of course veej.
Some people use less feel than others though as far as I know.
Like the "Clock Method" referenced earlier for measuring distance. (vs. "feeling" what "feels right" as a gauge)
Some people are more into rules (resultant of calculation I guess) and principles and analysis...others are more intuitive and feeling.
Some are balanced no doubt.
I have neglected the feeling side in golf and other sports and even just in general.
I am going now so I might as well keep going but also mention that this is not my stuff it is from another source.
I agree with the fact that everybody is a feel player to some degree and has their own feel.
Yes sir. Anyone who is alive can feel. (strange exceptions aside)
I can FEEL my fingers on the keyboard.
I can feel my butt on the seat.
I can feel the sweet sweet port going into my mouth. (and sloshing around)
Trying for certain feels can be a good way to "program something in." (inside of your coconut cabbage head)
Simply being conscious of what your feel (specifically or wholly, generally) can be useful as well I think.
And yes some do use it more than others. Surely we all have all noticed people vary in this.
Richie said:
Who knows what the future holds for Trackman, but as an inexperienced golfer you haven't been thru the flawed contraptions that are supposed to be the next big thing.
I don't *think* Trackman will be that way, but I can somebody being very skeptical about the product.
3JACK
I can see someone being skeptical of Trackman too. Of the accuracy and also of the use. ("What use is it?")
But we live in the 21st century now and there obviously must be means to measure the golf swing these days. Most should know that this most likely is very very plausible.
Means of Measuring...I guess Trackman just happens to be
it.
So I hear.
The over-doubters should get a punch in the stomach!!
(do note it matters what exactly qualifies you as an Over-Doubter)
(also I do not suggest you are one Richie
)