Fixing a flat shoulder turn on the backswing

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After reading the recent thread on fixing a steep shoulder turn on the backswing, I thought I'd ask the opposite question - how to fix a flat shoulder turn on the backswing (one of my problems).

I worked with Brian in October and this is one of the things we talked about. I'm still struggling with it somewhat, so any suggestions would be appreciated. When I try to steepen, it kinda feels like I'm putting my body in a bind.

Brian, you had a nice list of ways to flatten. Do you have one for steepening? I'm sure you do :)

Thanks
 
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MANZELLA MATRIX TOP 10 WAYS TO STEEPEN YOUR SHOULDER TURN on the Backswing

1. Try to make your left shoulder pass under your left clavicle.

2. Keep you right elbow higher than your left.

3. Move your right hip away from the ball as the left shoulder moves toward it.

4. Keep your tailbone to the right of your neckbone.

5. HIGH RIGHT HIP going back (Big Hip Tilt).

6. Expand your ribs on your right side going back.

7. Feel like you add to your waist bend going back.

8. Try to stay off your right heel at the top.

9. Make a load for throwing motion you would if you were going to try to throw the ball between your legs.

10. Shadow Practice.
 
tbarbertab

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Thanks Brian - hope to see you next Spring. If we're lucky, I'll show up with a steeper shoulder turn, a higher, wider left elbow, and a shaft that's NOT laid off :)
 
birdie_man

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Medici......you can't relate to ANY of those examples??

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Or are there only a few you don't understand? (you would have to point them out if this is the case)
 
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Medici999 said:
i dont understand 3.4. and 7, my arms have a good takeaway then get ridiculously deep on way back. thanks
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Ah, we just did those in a lesson. I think you could combine all of them by turning your right hip back and stretching your right side by INCREASING the bend.
 
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Not Brian, but we just went over this in a lesson a couple weeks ago. He had me try to make a reverse pivot, and I could (couldn't hit the ball very well though) as a test. He then had me work towards a steeper shoulder turn and stretch the right side while pivoting and staying reasonably centered. He clearly did not want me to reverse pivot. Just make a strong, steeper pivot.
This was part of an NHA type pattern. He also had me lay the club on the wall, then swing left of the wall too.

Please realize, this was a doctor's prescription specifically for me. Brian has seen my swing plenty (maybe too much for him:). I can't say this prescription is right for anyone else, unless you have Brian or someone on his staff take a look and write your Rx.

I'm not sure, but understand Brian and I have worked a long time to get my backswing on plane. The guy has tried many, many different ways, thoughts and feels. While my swing is dramatically improved (and that's an understatement), Neither Brian or I are willing to settle for pretty good.
 
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